Cobra Kai Havertz: No Mercy

[Sanchez11]

Kai starts next season period!

 

[GDeep™]

With that logic, half of Wenger's tenure here was nothing short of failure.

That’s how most people see it don’t they?

You get into a difficult debate here, as the stadium change and debt repayments will paint a different picture.

Right now it’s the prime, golden period, we can spend whatever we want, within reason.

 

[Riou]

He'll also know we need even more firepower & an actual out & out striker who is clinical is EXACTLY what we need.

Just because Havertz has scored a few goals doesn't mean we should not buy a striker. That would be madness.

The market for strikers is pretty poor right now, which inflates the cost of any that move, which will be an issue for us. Any striker we buy will be a big gamble.

Think the CF market is pretty dead, some of the fees for players like Toney/Osimhen for their talent level is crazy...not sure it's worth it with how it will disprute our team.

Would rather focus on a top midfielder that can help get Martinelli back to his best, as we KNOW he can score goals in the right system.

Fully trust Kai starting and Jesus as his back up (though not against a younger CF with potential to get great, that's our best bet) especially with how we play with our wide players.

 

[Riou]

Only time Wenger failed, was his last 3 seasons here...and after succeeding in almost 2 decades (first half challenging for the league and winning cups, second half getting Top Four and winning cups) a few lows weren't that bad at all.

Not many top managers have it in them to take the bullets for a club the way Wenger did for Arsenal from 2006-2013, would scare most to death...look at Klopp running away the minute he knows his club can't compete anymore.

He really did love Arsenal, tbh.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning

True, we need to lose more to keep us grounded. Or we could just support Sp**s instead

 

[Riou]

True, we need to lose more to keep us grounded. Or we could just support Sp**s instead

I think the post you quoted is what's written just above the tunnel as the players come out at the New White Hart Lane...

 

[North5]

I'd roll with him next season if we get a new winger

 

[OnlyOne]

Imagine this guy, Williams and Ferguson. Wow.

 

[PrinzPoldi]

At a top club, it’s a failure. Arteta will also tell you the same. 4 years without any trophy now.

There are quite a number top clubs in the world, and we are not (yet) THE BEST.

There is only one winner in the league, and all 19 teams are failure?
What about getting more revenue? More sponsors? Having more chance to attract better players? Setting ourselves to succeed in the long run?
Probably the Kroenkes are more realistic than you.

All that are written off because we cannot win the league against the team that is better than us in almost category?

Since you are this harsh to our team, do you have the same standard to youself and see yourself a failure if you are not the president of a country, CEO of a company, driving the best car, living in the best house, sleeping with the most beautiful woman in the world?

That's why I feel sorry for you.

 

[GDeep™]

There are quite a number top clubs in the world, and we are not (yet) THE BEST.

There is only one winner in the league, and all 19 teams are failure?
What about getting more revenue? More sponsors? Having more chance to attract better players? Setting ourselves to succeed in the long run?
Probably the Kroenkes are more realistic than you.

All that are written off because we cannot win the league against the team that is better than us in almost category?

Since you are this harsh to our team, do you have the same standard to youself and see yourself a failure if you are not the president of a country, CEO of a company, driving the best car, living in the best house, sleeping with the most beautiful woman in the world?

That's why I feel sorry for you.

We’ve spent the last 20 years since the stadium change to be in this position - paying off debts, restructuring the club, having more ambition. Now we can compete. An empty season at a big club is not good enough.

The other 19 clubs have their own targets and values - for some it’s just about staying in the league, for others it’s about top 6, top 8, top 10 etc. If Aston Villa don’t get top 6, it’s a failure for them.

I’m not saying anything groundbreaking. At a top club everybody is under pressure if you’re not winning something.

And yes, I’m failing also, since you’re asking. I’m not on the career path I want, so that’s failure on my part atm.

This is Arsenal, you have to win something.

 

[grange]

We’ve spent the last 20 years since the stadium change to be in this position - paying off debts, restructuring the club, having more ambition. Now we can compete. An empty season at a big club is not good enough.

The other 19 clubs have their own targets and values - for some it’s just about staying in the league, for others it’s about top 6, top 8, top 10 etc. If Aston Villa don’t get top 6, it’s a failure for them.

I’m not saying anything groundbreaking. At a top club everybody is under pressure if you’re not winning something.

And yes, I’m failing also, since you’re asking. I’m not on the career path I want, so that’s failure on my part atm.

This is Arsenal, you have to win something.

Arteta is not under any type of pressure. Move on.

 

[GDeep™]

Arteta is not under any type of pressure. Move on.

You don’t know anything about football. Stay out of these conversations.

 

[PrinzPoldi]

We’ve spent the last 20 years since the stadium change to be in this position - paying off debts, restructuring the club, having more ambition. Now we can compete. An empty season at a big club is not good enough.

The other 19 clubs have their own targets and values - for some it’s just about staying in the league, for others it’s about top 6, top 8, top 10 etc. If Aston Villa don’t get top 6, it’s a failure for them.

I’m not saying anything groundbreaking. At a top club everybody is under pressure if you’re not winning something.

And yes, I’m failing also, since you’re asking. I’m not on the career path I want, so that’s failure on my part atm.

This is Arsenal, you have to win something.

Don't mix up we should win something and we can win something.

If City keeps spending and Pep is their manager, they are still the #1 favorite to win the league.

 

[grange]

You don’t know anything about football. Stay out of these conversations.

You're writing paragraphs in the Kai Havertz thread about Arteta being under pressure when you still haven't figured out how the Kroenkes operate. I'm trying to save you from embarrassing yourself but keep digging if you wish. We'll continue laughing.

 

[Rasmi]

I'd roll with him next season if we get a new winger

I would absolutely not. We need to sign a top striker. It’s like we want to compete with City but don’t want two top players in any position. It will just be another trophyless season

 

[Riou]

Don't mix up we should win something and we can win something.

If City keeps spending and Pep is their manager, they are still the #1 favorite to win the league.

Needs to bring this had boy home for the record 15th time soon then...

 

[North5]

I would absolutely not. We need to sign a top striker. It’s like we want to compete with City but don’t want two top players in any position. It will just be another trophyless season

Where is this top striker though?

 

[Riou]

Where is this top striker though?

We played him in midfield for the first half of the season stupidly!

 

[Blankety Blank]

Top level today .
Didn't score but his most complete performance yet imho.

 

[fute]

Arteta has the right amount of pressure. Yes, you have to win, but there is some perspective, but it is not trophies every year or else.

Look at Tuchel at Munich or Xavi at Barca. Do we really want to be like that?

Progress is being made. Season isn't over yet.

Moral of the story: Kai is not a midfielder.