BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
How delusional
We don’t have a Countinho to sell and we don’t have any players as good as Mane, Salah or VVD. Arteta couldn’t even beat Olympiakos but we’re predicting him to win the CL lmao.
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Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?
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How delusional
We don’t have a Countinho to sell and we don’t have any players as good as Mane, Salah or VVD. Arteta couldn’t even beat Olympiakos but we’re predicting him to win the CL lmao.
TornadoTed
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How delusional
We don’t have a Countinho to sell and we don’t have any players as good as Mane, Salah or VVD. Arteta couldn’t even beat Olympiakos but we’re predicting him to win the CL lmao.
Klopp didn't have players as good as Mane, Salah or VVD when he arrived either. I would actually say the Liverpool squad was worse when he took over than the Arsenal squad when Mikel took over.
Of course it's highly unlikely that history will repeat itself, everything would have to align perfectly but 3-4 years is a long time in football. Only 5 of the 37 players who were there when Klopp arrived are still there, Gomez, Milner, Henderson, Firminho and Origi which just shows how a football club can be completely transformed and overhauled in a very short time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_Liverpool_F.C._season#First_team
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EmeryCouldnt
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How delusional
We don’t have a Countinho to sell and we don’t have any players as good as Mane, Salah or VVD. Arteta couldn’t even beat Olympiakos but we’re predicting him to win the CL lmao.
Eh, probably right, but we can dream.
BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
Well when we have a player like Countinho we can sell for 100+ million and other players like Benteke and those Bournemouth ones where we get way more for the player then we won't end up like Liverpool.
Arsenal fans have this obsession with being like Liverpool, Firminho/Lacazette, Robertson/Tierney, saying we're gonna copy in their foot steps. It's a bit pathetic tbh.
Furious
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Yeah, everyone was comparing us to Liverpool too with Emery, lmao. Kept telling the feckers that's not how it works but they wouldn't listen.
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The Liverpool one makes me laugh really, they spent tons on absolute rubbish that people always forget about. But that was coupled with one/2 signings which were decent and then obviously Klopp.
Best thing they ever did was sell Coutinho and basically had the choice of whatever players they wanted.
TornadoTed
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I am not saying that we need to copy Liverpool, I couldn't care less about Liverpool to be honest. People who copy rarely succeed, we need to innovate and find our own blueprint to success.
I only mention them to highlight that 3 years is a long, long time in football. When I hear things like 'we are so far behind', 'it will take 10 years to compete', 'Champions League winners in 3 years is delusional' and it just sounds plain defeatist to me.
You can rebuild a whole club in 3-4 years. We have 9 players left from 2016-2017 and most of them will barely feature for us this season and be off next summer. Not to mention we have a new manager, new coaching staff, new DOF, new chief exec, new academy setup, new scouting setup etc.
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Arteta has given loads of interviews since he came back, but one thing that stuck in my mind was when he said that we had to improve and to do so quickly. I think he may have injected a sense of urgency in Kroenke who might finally get that mid table finishes wont protect his investment as the PL doesn't have the leveller playing fields that US sports have. Arteta also knows that players will no longer wait around for years while a squad is built which destroys the foundations our club. A lot of people are talking about copying Liverpool. Less than ten years ago, Souness especially talked quite a lot about how we were a blueprint for them to copy. We just need to get back to our true self-quality purchases that don't have to be expensive and promoting our top quality youth. The indicators are that Arteta could get a lot right-but only with the backing of the board.
WiscoGooner8
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The key is that the board/owners have to be ambitious as well. It would take the greatest coaching display of all time for the squad we have now to win the CL.
EmeryCouldnt
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Hopefully our executive overlords see what we have in Arteta.
North5
Here since 2009. Unlike Cornavirus.
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Imagine being alarmed that a guy who could be paid millions a year in a high pressure public job has notes on his wall about it.
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EmeryCouldnt
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Imagined being alarmed that a guy who could be paid millions of year in a high pressure public job has notes about it on his wall about it.
We don’t know what it looked like. Perhaps you imagine a blackboard with notes; I imagine the obsessive ravings of a beautiful mind.
PressResistance
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My manager trying to make a FIFA transfer window happen.
Although I feel as though it's a bit rushed, love the cojones on Mikel.
Although I feel as though it's a bit rushed, love the cojones on Mikel.
boonthegoon
Arteta In by November
Country: USA
Player:Ødegaard
Refreshing changes from the time he's been appointed
Only issue Chelsea strengthening massively which will stunt our progress
Only issue Chelsea strengthening massively which will stunt our progress
Manberg
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Only thing stunting ours and Mikel's progress is the catalogue of errors and poor decisions made by previous management that he's trying as best he can to contend with.
Taneruit
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Country: Switzerland
Player:Zinchenko
They haven't really strengthened as much as bought depth. In fact their transfer business, while great players, is overrated as they haven't really sorted out their issues (IMO) yet.
Edit: I mean, currently their central defenders still consists of Zouma and while Thiago Silva would be a great player he's 36 by the time the season really starts ffs.
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Riotof91
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The previous management was allowed to fester into a down spiral because of the indifference of the owners. As long as the ownership is the same any manager will be stunted by the fact we have owners and fans who don’t care about winning titles
Manberg
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Gazidis was the one on my mind when I said that. The £350k a week contract to Özil is the worst decision the club has made in over 10 years. Not cashing in on players leaving, letting Ramsey go for free, giving contracts to mediocre players such as El Neny, too much money wasted on duds (Mustafi £35m defender) etc.
EmeryCouldnt
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Another team doing well does not stunt our progress. Unless you mean their impact on the transfer market. Improving as a club is up to us only and we've been making the wrong decisions for a little while. It looks like we are in the right direction, but I've felt this way before.
GDeep™
League is very weak
We finished 2 points off 3rd and reached a European final last season. Didn’t see you talking about the previous regime then. Finish 8th and now it’s their fault.
They didn’t sign Luiz, Cebellos in midfield, both of whom were poor till June/July, it was Raul also who took the Ramsey contract off the table. It was Raul also who went to war with Özil. The same Raul who got sacked within 18 months of becoming head of football here.
