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Formation 20/21 Season

Jakarta

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:lol::lol::lol:

Probably the worst formation I've ever seen on this forum

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Some real madness!

I’m already dying of boredom here, and my man here wants to play ElNeny and Ceballos as roaming playmakers behind Auba.

@Manberg are you a sadist?
 
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GoonerJay24

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In home matches where we're expected to have lots of possession - 4222

Leno
AMN Holding Gabriel Tierney
Elneny Partey
Saka/Willian Willock/Smith-Rowe
Pepe Aubamayang

In tougher matches where it'll be a battle - 3421

Leno
Holding Luiz Gabriel
AMN Elneny Partey Tierney
Saka Willock/Smith-Rowe
Aubamayang
 

Macho

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Leno​

Bellerin — Holding — Gabriel — Tierney​

Nelson — Ceballos — Partey — Saka​

Pepe—Aubameyang​
Came to literally post this formation.
Bielsa converted Pepe into a striker and that’s the player we signed. Would never happen but I’d love to see Auba and Pepe upfront.
 

The_Playmaker

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In home matches where we're expected to have lots of possession - 4222

Leno
AMN Holding Gabriel Tierney
Elneny Partey
Saka/Willian Willock/Smith-Rowe
Pepe Aubamayang

In tougher matches where it'll be a battle - 3421

Leno
Holding Luiz Gabriel
AMN Elneny Partey Tierney
Saka Willock/Smith-Rowe
Aubamayang

Auba and Pepe played up front together away to Liverpool with Willock in a diamond. Those 3 performed really well. Two up top is the way to go when you don't have a false 9 and when you don't have a lone striker to hold the ball.

Auba----Pepe

Martinelli--Pepe

Martinelli---Auba would be my too combinations.

Arteta could have the option of playing a 352 or a 442.

442

------------Auba-----Pepe

Saka----Partey----Willock--Nelson

Tierney---Gabriel---Luiz---AMN

------------------Leno

You have the option of resting Saka for ESR or Martinelli. AMN is preferred at RB as he tucks into midfield and protects the counter when Willock makes his runs.

Or 352

-------------------Auba---------Pepe

Tierney----Saka------------Willock-------Bellerin

------------------------Partey

-------------Mari------Gabriel----Saliba

--------------------------Leno

I prefer the 442 as the two wide players can move between the lines. Leaves more rotation for the likes of ESR, Willian, Nelson and Saka. Keeps Lacazette out and pepe is closer to goal and to Auba.
 

AmsterdamGunner

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I hate 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Just play a normal formation and start controlling the midfield, this will help with defending and attacking.
 

GoonerJay24

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I hate 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Just play a normal formation and start controlling the midfield, this will help with defending and attacking.

You can still control the midfield in these formations but depends on the positions players occupy.
For instance when we played 3421 under Wenger we're able to overload the centre by having 2 Cms with 2 Cams.

But yes I believe our primary formation should be 4222 because we have the players to use that system very well. Similarly to Jardims 2017 Monaco team with two inverted wingers, two box-box cms and two mobile strikers that capably combine. This or some variation of it should be the main system used in games that the team is expected to dominate possession.
 

Tourbillion

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Auba and Pepe played up front together away to Liverpool with Willock in a diamond. Those 3 performed really well. Two up top is the way to go when you don't have a false 9 and when you don't have a lone striker to hold the ball.

Auba----Pepe

Martinelli--Pepe

Martinelli---Auba would be my too combinations.

Arteta could have the option of playing a 352 or a 442.

442

------------Auba-----Pepe

Saka----Partey----Willock--Nelson

Tierney---Gabriel---Luiz---AMN

------------------Leno

You have the option of resting Saka for ESR or Martinelli. AMN is preferred at RB as he tucks into midfield and protects the counter when Willock makes his runs.

Or 352

-------------------Auba---------Pepe

Tierney----Saka------------Willock-------Bellerin

------------------------Partey

-------------Mari------Gabriel----Saliba

--------------------------Leno

I prefer the 442 as the two wide players can move between the lines. Leaves more rotation for the likes of ESR, Willian, Nelson and Saka. Keeps Lacazette out and pepe is closer to goal and to Auba.
Really like that 442 lineup.
 

OSBK

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I might be wrong but under wenger towards then end we were not playing well and conceeding more than usual. Wenger switched to a back 3 and for a short period we did well and it worked. Until we got found out and started conceeding lots again.

Its like history repeating itself
 

Breezy

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I notice a lot of fans calling for a switch to 433. I just don’t think we have the personnel for it. In order to make that system work effectively a out an out holding midfield specialist is imperative. Don’t think Partey is suited to the role, Xhaka and Ceballos are suspect defensively and Elneny is too average.
 

Macho

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The players are more than capable of playing in a 4-3-3, that makes no sense.

The fans are too caught up in formation though, it’s all about intent.
 

Breezy

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The players are more than capable of playing in a 4-3-3, that makes no sense.

The fans are too caught up in formation though, it’s all about intent.

Name one club that has played it successfully without a specialist holding midfielder?
 

Macho

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Name one club that has played it successfully without a specialist holding midfielder?
Many? They just don’t win the league. I don’t even know what you’re saying now that I think about it, cause the league is littered with average midfielders.

Even Liverpool’s aren’t that special, one of them was even here and couldn’t force his way into the team under Wenger.

They lack in creativity maybe - but Xhaka, Elneny, Partey are more than capable between them whether you like them or not, so I disagree tbh.
 

Breezy

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Many? They just don’t win the league. I don’t even know what you’re saying now that I think about it, cause the league is littered with average midfielders.

Even Liverpool’s aren’t that special, one of them was even here and couldn’t force his way into the team under Wenger.

They lack in creativity maybe - Xhaka, Elneny, Partey are more than capable between them whether you like them or not, so I disagree tbh.

What I’m saying is not that difficult to understand. Every big club that has implemented that system successfully has done so because of a specialist holding midfielder. Barca(Busquets), Bayern(Martinez), Liverpool(Fabinho), Madrid(Casemiro) etc. We do not have anyone in the current squad with the profile to make that formation work to it’s maximum effect.
 

Macho

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What I’m saying is not that difficult to understand. Every big club that has implemented that system successfully has done so because of a specialist holding midfielder. Barca(Busquets), Bayern(Martinez), Liverpool(Fabinho), Madrid(Casemiro) etc. We do not have anyone in the current squad with the profile to make that formation work to it’s maximum effect.
First of all you said “name one club”, nothing about title winners or contenders - there’s a big difference. If you’re waiting for Arsenal to be genuine title contenders then you might as well stop following for a few years cause there’s work to be done.

To get in Champions League Xhaka and Elneny are more than capable as they’ve done it before. Partey was a vital part of a CL team.

Think you’re just having a moan for moaning sake personally.
 

Breezy

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First of all you said “name one club”, nothing about title winners or contenders - there’s a big difference. If you’re waiting for Arsenal to be genuine title contenders then you might as well stop following for a few years cause there’s work to be done.

To get in Champions League Xhaka and Elneny are more than capable as they’ve done it before. Partey was a vital part of a CL team.

Think you’re just having a moan for moaning sake personally.

I said name one club that has played it “successfully”. What do you think I meant by successfully?

A 433 with Partey-Xhaka-Elneny would be ineffective.
 

Macho

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I said name one club that has played it “successfully”. What do you think I meant by successfully?
Success is open to interpretation, you didn’t say anything about title winning teams.

You’re upset over nothing anyways, our players can play 4-3-3 quite comfortably.
 

Breezy

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Success is open to interpretation, you didn’t say anything about title winning teams.

You’re upset over nothing anyways, our players can play 4-3-3 quite comfortably.

Without a top class holding midfielder it wouldn’t be successful.

You still haven’t named one club that has played it to great effect without a top holding midfielder.
 

Red London

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Theres no point predicting exact teams but I'm going to list a couple examples just to explain the two potential systems we should play, the personel (eg. in the midfield) should be chosen based on the opposition and toughness of the game.

4231 - For breaking down low blocks, we saw how effective it was against Sheffield for that period where we saw a glimpse of some attacking football:

Leno
Bellerin Luiz Gabriel Tierney
Ceballos Partey
Pepe Willian Saka
Aubameyang

Can play Elneny or Xhaka in there if the boss wishes but its all about the front 4, they can actually link up and put some pressure on the opposition for once. If they press well we can squeeze them higher up the pitch too.

433 - For the tougher away games. With this its important to actually play a dynamic midfield, not the dross we saw against Leciester, and they shouldnt be leaving the centre CM so isolated.

Leno
Bellerin Luiz Gabriel Tierney
Willock Partey Ceballos
Pepe Aubameyang Saka

Willock will make those interesting runs into the right channel of the box, it could help Pepe a lot. When Willian maybe picks up some form Arteta can try a Ceballos Partey Saka midfield with Willian taking the LW spot.

What we are doing now is so one dimensional. Aubameyang has locked down the LW spot which means Laca and Eddie have the striker spot who are quite average players (laca is shocking actually), with Auba up top we get to play an extra creative player in the side and maybe it can help pick up some form for the likes of Willian and Pepe if they play with other creative players and can link up more. The freeing up of both wing spots rather than just the current 1 means there is more space for Pepe to start and Nelson to get minutes too. I wouldnt mind selling Laca and having Martinelli as understudy to Auba, with maybe a lower PL side loan for Eddie if no interesting offers come in.
 

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