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Unai Emery: Adios

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pikey2000

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People get judgements wrong, its a fact of life, not sure why it needs to be made into a case of who was right or wrong to be honest.

There were factors that gave a small amount of optimism last season, the run to the EL final, some semi decent performances turning around 1st leg deficits on the way, seem to remember we outplayed Chelsea in the league when Ramsey nailed Jorginho out of the game, were competitive against Liverpool in the 1st league game, and faired well against Sp**s, club that together with the long unbeaten run, Torreira having a great 1st half to the season, Holding looking good until he got injured and there were fairly good reasons to feel like we were slowly building toward something

As it turns out the top four collapse and abysmal EL final game were the first sight for many of us that he may not be the man for the job

then we rolled into the transfer window which most deemed to be good business, got the LB we needed, supposedly added more goals to the attack (we were too reliant on Auba/Laca), signed a promising CB for the future, bagged a Madrid starlet on loan and offloaded some dross, again plenty of reasons to be omptimistic

Then the season started, the poor general overall play was still there, the defense is still a shambles, he still doesn't know his best 11 and the formation keeps changing, so the doubt creeps back in

Then we run into the captaincy debacle followed by the Xhaka incident and the wheels have well and truly come off

Its still not that much of a stretch to see why people were optimistic, as much as it is not that much of a stretch to see why people had their doubts from day one.
 

Ashybashy86

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People get judgements wrong, its a fact of life, not sure why it needs to be made into a case of who was right or wrong to be honest.

There were factors that gave a small amount of optimism last season, the run to the EL final, some semi decent performances turning around 1st leg deficits on the way, seem to remember we outplayed Chelsea in the league when Ramsey nailed Jorginho out of the game, were competitive against Liverpool in the 1st league game, and faired well against Sp**s, club that together with the long unbeaten run, Torreira having a great 1st half to the season, Holding looking good until he got injured and there were fairly good reasons to feel like we were slowly building toward something

As it turns out the top four collapse and abysmal EL final game were the first sight for many of us that he may not be the man for the job

then we rolled into the transfer window which most deemed to be good business, got the LB we needed, supposedly added more goals to the attack (we were too reliant on Auba/Laca), signed a promising CB for the future, bagged a Madrid starlet on loan and offloaded some dross, again plenty of reasons to be omptimistic

Then the season started, the poor general overall play was still there, the defense is still a shambles, he still doesn't know his best 11 and the formation keeps changing, so the doubt creeps back in

Then we run into the captaincy debacle followed by the Xhaka incident and the wheels have well and truly come off

Its still not that much of a stretch to see why people were optimistic, as much as it is not that much of a stretch to see why people had their doubts from day one.
Most fans saw the writings on the wall well before that.
 

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Ashybashy86

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He's a good manager though, probably has great ideas, executing them at a PSG or Arsenal is probably abit much for him.
I heard certain players, Veratti being one, were unhappy with the formation and style Emery wanted them to play. Even went above his head to the owner. I'm unsure about the legitimacy of this, but the aforementioned player certainly did not like the way Emery did things.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...icult-to-work-with-at-psg-says-marco-verratti
 

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Realistically the guy should have been sacked in the summer. Over the course of the last half season or so we have been in mid table form in spite of many of those games coming against teams we should be taking 3 points off of. It's clear as day that we have to rely on other teams around us not performing to make top 4 with him as manager. They almost did last year but his sheer awfulness bottled that too. The team is going backwards even from the beginning of his tenure. The Özil situation, this Xhaka situation, the farce that was the whole captaincy selection process in the first place and the absolutely offensive "football" on show every week should already have resulted in his termination. This is not Arsène Wenger whom I appreciate more, even at his worst, every second I have to watch this punchline manager. Emery has achieved nothing for this club and should be relegated to a sad footnote, a brief error in the club's history rather than allow this tailspin to continue.
 

Ashybashy86

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Realistically the guy should have been sacked in the summer. Over the course of the last half season or so we have been in mid table form in spite of many of those games coming against teams we should be taking 3 points off of. It's clear as day that we have to rely on other teams around us not performing to make top 4 with him as manager. They almost did last year but his sheer awfulness bottled that too. The team is going backwards even from the beginning of his tenure. The Özil situation, this Xhaka situation, the farce that was the whole captaincy selection process in the first place and the absolutely offensive "football" on show every week should already have resulted in his termination. This is not Arsène Wenger whom I appreciate more, even at his worst, every second I have to watch this punchline manager. Emery has achieved nothing for this club and should be relegated to a sad footnote, a brief error in the club's history rather than allow this tailspin to continue.
I believe the board compared last season to Wenger's final season. Basically, Emery did better. It's obviously the wrong benchmark.

This season, according to Ornstein, it's top 4 or bust. Despite the rubbish football. Very worrying, but the board are of course keeping their cards close to their chest. We'll see if they change their stance if/when things get worse.
 

Hexagon9

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People get judgements wrong, its a fact of life, not sure why it needs to be made into a case of who was right or wrong to be honest.

There were factors that gave a small amount of optimism last season, the run to the EL final, some semi decent performances turning around 1st leg deficits on the way, seem to remember we outplayed Chelsea in the league when Ramsey nailed Jorginho out of the game, were competitive against Liverpool in the 1st league game, and faired well against Sp**s, club that together with the long unbeaten run, Torreira having a great 1st half to the season, Holding looking good until he got injured and there were fairly good reasons to feel like we were slowly building toward something

As it turns out the top four collapse and abysmal EL final game were the first sight for many of us that he may not be the man for the job

then we rolled into the transfer window which most deemed to be good business, got the LB we needed, supposedly added more goals to the attack (we were too reliant on Auba/Laca), signed a promising CB for the future, bagged a Madrid starlet on loan and offloaded some dross, again plenty of reasons to be omptimistic

Then the season started, the poor general overall play was still there, the defense is still a shambles, he still doesn't know his best 11 and the formation keeps changing, so the doubt creeps back in

Then we run into the captaincy debacle followed by the Xhaka incident and the wheels have well and truly come off

Its still not that much of a stretch to see why people were optimistic, as much as it is not that much of a stretch to see why people had their doubts from day one.

Good post.

It’s impossible to be truly objective because we’re all Arsenal fans, but this sums up how I feel too.
 

Sanis

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I heard certain players, Veratti being one, were unhappy with the formation and style Emery wanted them to play. Even went above his head to the owner. I'm unsure about the legitimacy of this, but the aforementioned player certainly did not like the way Emery did things.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...icult-to-work-with-at-psg-says-marco-verratti

Dzyuba, who was at Spartak Moscow at that time, was openly insulting Emery in the press, while he was still in charge of the team :lol:
 
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