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Alexandre Lacazette (Out)

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Garrincha

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But judging by your previous argument he's declining and we shouldn't give declining players new deals.
Laca is 2 years younger and he's a different type of striker that relies on service to be productive in front of goal.
We had no service for him, so he played like a box to box midfielder last season. Get someone in who can take that load off of him and you're golden.

The bottom line is your arguments are hypocritical.
Maybe but I dont think we will see it. No mention of a new deal for Lacazette just exit stories.

With Auba him & his goals are just too valuable... potentially they do drop off in year two or three but I dont see it at the moment.
 

KrissKringle

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With Auba him & his goals are just too valuable... potentially they do drop off in year two or three but I dont see it at the moment.
But it's lunacy to rely on just Auba for the whole season. You can't play him every game and Pepe isn't consistent even in the slightest to take some of the scoring load off of him if we sell Laca.

Pepe had his best all around game in the last one of the season and people are acting as if he's been turning up week in week out.

A club that's looking to get back into the top 4 doesn't sell a striker that can do the job with the proper personnel supplying him.

Imagine that Auba is out for a while and Nketiah/Martinelli is playing in his place. I can guarantee you we lose points wholesale in that period.

It's irresponsible to go down that route and no club that respects itself would rely on a 21 year old and a 19 year old to carry the load.
 

Token Yank

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In his 3 years here Laca has been painfully inconsistent. He will have runs of 4-5 games where he looks good, usually after months of horrible performances where he looks fat, slow, and out of shape. There was a point before the lock down where he was absolutely useless and he was essentially dropped for Eddie. Also, mix in the fact earlier he missed some massive chances in big games. Away at LC, when it was still 0-0 missed an open net from 6 yards out iirc. If we get an offer of 30m we have to take it.
 

Garrincha

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But it's lunacy to rely on just Auba for the whole season. You can't play him every game and Pepe isn't consistent even in the slightest to take some of the scoring load off of him if we sell Laca.

Pepe had his best all around game in the last one of the season and people are acting as if he's been turning up week in week out.

A club that's looking to get back into the top 4 doesn't sell a striker that can do the job with the proper personnel supplying him.

Imagine that Auba is out for a while and Nketiah/Martinelli is playing in his place. I can guarantee you we lose points wholesale in that period.

It's irresponsible to go down that route and no club that respects itself would rely on a 21 year old and a 19 year old to carry the load.
Yeah, if we let him go defo hope we bring in another forward as we lack goals right now. If Auba transfers or gets injured think we are in a hard situation.
 

lomekian

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Like a few players in our squad, Laca isn't good enough to be the main man, but is still good enough to be a valuable contributor at times, so he's only someone you look to sell if you have someone who can offer at least that level lined up or waiting in the wings. At this point, we can't afford anyone DEFINITELY better than him, and any signing we could make with the money we get for him has a high element of risk, which we may not be able to afford with margins being tight as they are.

Its pretty clear the manager likes him, but is not totally wedded to him, and the club value him but see him as expendable. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 

drippin

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Like a few players in our squad, Laca isn't good enough to be the main man, but is still good enough to be a valuable contributor at times, so he's only someone you look to sell if you have someone who can offer at least that level lined up or waiting in the wings. At this point, we can't afford anyone DEFINITELY better than him, and any signing we could make with the money we get for him has a high element of risk, which we may not be able to afford with margins being tight as they are.

Its pretty clear the manager likes him, but is not totally wedded to him, and the club value him but see him as expendable. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that Arsenal need to be in the top 4 this season (like earlier seasons of course).

So to replace Laca for a sure contributor (and coming into UEL this year at least) Arsenal would need big spending. I mean really big.

I think it is better to take a risk for Laca to give another POTY performance, or mediocre like this year, and spend on more defensive areas finally.
 

Dutch D

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I disagree @drippin and @lomekian.

He's the third best earner in the squad after Auba and Özil. £180k/week just to have a decent bench option is not smart squad planning. Especially if you have two talented back-up strikers in the squad with Nketiah and Martinelli. I'll admit they are not (yet) as good back-up options as Lacazette, but they are probably on 1/6th of the wages and they have significant upside. I think both could develop in the short term (so next season) to be a good enough back-up striker for a top6 team.

Lacazette is still a sellable asset at 29, but next year with one year left on his contract it's already a different story. That money can be used to strengthen other areas and sure you'll (slightly) weaken the back-up ST option, but the starting XI will become stronger. If you insist on bringing in another striker Depay and Edouard are probably available for similar fees and have more upside.
 

bingobob

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Auba is 31, so he's declining too. Why are we giving him a new deal?
Aubameyang who has won the golden boot, broke Henry's scoring record and was a ball hair away from winning the golden boot again.

Honestly reading some of your posts you're a penny land gdeep.
 

Maybe

You're wrong, no?
Aubameyang who has won the golden boot, broke Henry's scoring record and was a ball hair away from winning the golden boot again.

Honestly reading some of your posts you're a penny land gdeep.
Remember the 2006 situation with Henry? We've had some massive offers from Spanish clubs but we've kept him at the time when he was the best CF in the world. His form went downhill from there and he was sold just a year later for nothing.
It's hard to tell at his age what will happen next, he could be our Vardy that will keep scoring like mad or he could become another expensive older player who has no motivation to push for more
 

bingobob

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Remember the 2006 situation with Henry? We've had some massive offers from Spanish clubs but we've kept him at the time when he was the best CF in the world. His form went downhill from there and he was sold just a year later for nothing.
It's hard to tell at his age what will happen next, he could be our Vardy that will keep scoring like mad or he could become another expensive older player who has no motivation to push for more
age doesnt impact motivation, if it did Guendouzi would have got his act together.

The facts are Aubameyang has scored goals, lots of them. You sign him up in the assumption that will continue. Does it have risks of course it does same way a 21 year old has risks. They could throw the head up, break a leg and never recover, multiple things can happen.
 

Maybe

You're wrong, no?
age doesnt impact motivation, if it did Guendouzi would have got his act together.

The facts are Aubameyang has scored goals, lots of them. You sign him up in the assumption that will continue. Does it have risks of course it does same way a 21 year old has risks. They could throw the head up, break a leg and never recover, multiple things can happen.
Yeah, agree with that. His value on the market is probably less than 30m atm, there's nothing you can buy for that in the age group of 22-28. Even if he does decline he will still score more than any player we would bring for that money
 

The_Playmaker

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Not if the replacement is double

Why would his replacement cost double. People moan about Pepes price tag, saying we paid too much for him. We probably did, but there is the possibility that he develops over the next two years into that kind of player.

We overpaid for Lacazette. 50 million for a max of 14 goals in the league over 3 years. He got 10 this season. It doesn't cost 60 million to replace that kind of output, because aside from all of the pressing, fouling while tracking back, supposed link up play, what does he contribute over an entire season. Definitely not 50 million pounds worth.

We could easily get a 30 million pound striker who does more than Lacazette and scores the same amount, because you have Danny Ings banging in goals for an average Southampton team that probably create as much as we do, and yet people think Laczette can't be replaced.
 

say yes

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Because Auba is banging in 20+ goals from lw, he needs moving into the middle. Sell laca and buy a lw.
Auba is more threatening and scores more on the left. He’s also awful at holding the ball up / linking play in the middle. Why should we move him central?

If we‘re going to replace Laca we should be doing it with a new CF, not a LW.
 

say yes

forum master baiter
Why would his replacement cost double. People moan about Pepes price tag, saying we paid too much for him. We probably did, but there is the possibility that he develops over the next two years into that kind of player.

We overpaid for Lacazette. 50 million for a max of 14 goals in the league over 3 years. He got 10 this season. It doesn't cost 60 million to replace that kind of output, because aside from all of the pressing, fouling while tracking back, supposed link up play, what does he contribute over an entire season. Definitely not 50 million pounds worth.

We could easily get a 30 million pound striker who does more than Lacazette and scores the same amount, because you have Danny Ings banging in goals for an average Southampton team that probably create as much as we do, and yet people think Laczette can't be replaced.
If it’s easy to find a better (and cheaper) CF than Lacazette, why would any club buy him from us?
 

HairSprayGooners

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Auba is more threatening and scores more on the left. He’s also awful at holding the ball up / linking play in the middle. Why should we move him central?

If we‘re going to replace Laca we should be doing it with a new CF, not a LW.

You're talking as if Lacazette is brilliant at linking play in the middle, he's okay at it but nothing special. The whole point in us signing a creative player is so we don't have to rely on the striker doing this for us.
 

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