✍️ OFFICIAL Lucas Torreira (Out)

[Oxeki]

Disgusting, he is worth 30 mil
Very good player that just hasn’t been able to adapt in the epl, but would be great in Spain or Italy. I can easily see him playing for a Juventus or Barca in a couple of years.


hopefully we included a sell on clause

No one will pay 30m for Torreira especially in a Covid-19 period. We should take the hit and move on. 24m is decent. At least we recouped over 90% of what we spent on him. Of not for Covid-19, I reckon we would have gotten more

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

Better not be any opt outs or loopholes in the obligation to buy. I trust Italian clubs about as far as I could throw them when it comes to transfers.

£24m seems a respectable fee though. Would have been better if it was a straight transfer though.

 

[Flying Okapis]

Can anyone explain what is the point of a loan + obligation to buy?

8m loan fee (year 1) + 16m fee (8mil for 2yrs) = 24mil,
24mil transfer fee spread over the same 3yrs is also 8mil a year? (All made up terms just to suit the example)

What's the difference? Why do clubs opt for loan and obligation, why not just sign the player out right now and structure the payments in the same way?

What is the point in the loan?

 

[Garrincha]

 

[MD3 Gunner]

Disgusting, he is worth 30 mil
Very good player that just hasn’t been able to adapt in the epl, but would be great in Spain or Italy. I can easily see him playing for a Juventus or Barca in a couple of years.


hopefully we included a sell on clause

Agreed. He's a very good player who's just too limited

 

[Makavelii]

Can anyone explain what is the point of a loan + obligation to buy?

8m loan fee (year 1) + 16m fee (8mil for 2yrs) = 24mil,
24mil transfer fee spread over the same 3yrs is also 8mil a year? (All made up terms just to suit the example)

What's the difference? Why do clubs opt for loan and obligation, why not just sign the player out right now and structure the payments in the same way?

What is the point in the loan?

The obligation to buy has a clause that he has to play a certain number of games or something for the obligation to take effect.
So it’s basically insurance for the buyer that they don’t have to buy if they’re a flop.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

£13M Kolasinac
£21M Torreira
£30M Bellerin
£4M Sokratis

Partey/Aouar and Gabriel paid for.

Hopefully we can sell Chambers and one of Lacazette or Guendouzi

 

[MD3 Gunner]

No one will pay 30m for Torreira especially in a Covid-19 period. We should take the hit and move on. 24m is decent. At least we recouped over 90% of what we spent on him. Of not for Covid-19, I reckon we would have gotten more

Milan last summer bid 32m for him before they got Bennacer

 

[Ashybashy86]

Can we use the 16m now ??

I'm not too clued up on accounting, but maybe, if it's Accounts Receivable.

Definition: Accounts Receivable (AR) is the proceeds or payment which the company will receive from its customers who have purchased its goods & services on credit. Usually the credit period is short ranging from few days to months or in some cases maybe a year.

Account Receivables (AR) are treated as current assets on the balance sheet.

 

[bingobob]

Can anyone explain what is the point of a loan + obligation to buy?

8m loan fee (year 1) + 16m fee (8mil for 2yrs) = 24mil,
24mil transfer fee spread over the same 3yrs is also 8mil a year? (All made up terms just to suit the example)

What's the difference? Why do clubs opt for loan and obligation, why not just sign the player out right now and structure the payments in the same way?

What is the point in the loan?

FFP?

 

[benjamin86]

Disgusting, he is worth 30 mil
Very good player that just hasn’t been able to adapt in the epl, but would be great in Spain or Italy. I can easily see him playing for a Juventus or Barca in a couple of years.


hopefully we included a sell on clause

If the monies spent this window on another player that's had his value squashed by Covid then it's fine.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

But this shows you how overrated Mislintat is. He was terrible in his job. The one transfer window we had under him (summer of 2018) was so average

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Man this was such a bad transfer window. Now get rid of Guendouzi and Sokratis and hopefully Leno next summer. And we can start forgetting it ever happened!

 

[MD3 Gunner]

If the monies spent this window on another player that's had his value squashed by Covid then it's fine.

Aouar without Covid could've been 70m. So eventually everything evens itself out and all parties benefit as the players value they want to sell declines along with the players value they want to buy unless they have a clause in their contract

 

[Flying Okapis]

The obligation to buy has a clause that he has to play a certain number of games or something for the obligation to take effect.
So it’s basically insurance for the buyer that they don’t have to buy if they’re a flop.

Oh really, never knew that.

Always thought the obligation ment you buy regardless, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

I'm not too clued up on accounting, but maybe, if it's Accounts Receivable.

Definition: Accounts Receivable (AR) is the proceeds or payment which the company will receive from its customers who have purchased its goods & services on credit. Usually the credit period is short ranging from few days to months or in some cases maybe a year.

Account Receivables (AR) are treated as current assets on the balance sheet.

I've heard that once the club reports its financial results, it will be included so makes sense

 

[HairSprayGooners]

The obligation to buy has a clause that he has to play a certain number of games or something for the obligation to take effect.
So it’s basically insurance for the buyer that they don’t have to buy if they’re a flop.

Yes but they're going to be paying £10M for him this window, they won't pay that and not go through with the whole thing.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

What a shambles of a human being, get your sh*t together you muppet why are you always crying.

This is the guy that's support to be a pitbull or have the heart of someone twice his size? Pathetic viewing tbh.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

Yes but they're going to be paying £10M for him this window, they won't pay that and not go through with the whole thing.

Plus no way Torreira will flop in the serie a he would be one of the best midfielders in the league

 

[SingmeasongSong]

If it's obligation yes we can use the 24M euros now.

If this is true, ir's even 28-29m with his salary off