Martin Ødegaard

[Pyres7]

Ødegaard isn't coming here to play back up to ESR FFS.

Not knocking ESR, he's my favourite Hale End kid, but it is what it is. You can debate their ceilings but Ødegaard is much further along in his development at this stage.

He's coming here to start. Maybe they'll be some rotation, maybe Ødegaard with play out on the right occasionally but he's coming here as a starter. Not a bench warmer or back up for a kid with 7 career PL games.

I'm fine with that as long as it doesn't eat into ESR's minutes on the pitch too much. We're in 3 competitions so there shouldn't be a problem, a bit of healthy competition is welcome.

Although I wouldn't say he's a guaranteed starter, he's in the same boat as Ceballos as far as I'm concerned. ESR should keeping his place initially and Ødegaard will come in as the challenger. He's talented but he's still a young player coming into a new league. He has to earn starts at Arsenal.

 

[The_Playmaker]

Depends on the formation.

Let’s say Tierney gets an injury and we don’t sign an LB.

He could easily go 3412. Back 3 Gabriel, Luiz, Holding. Saka LM, ESR RM, Partey CM, Xhaka CM, Ødegaard CAM, Auba CF, Laca CF.

Arteta has said all along he wants options to give him flexibility. That’s really what this is.

ESR as rwb? No Tierney?

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

ESR as rwb? No Tierney?

From the post you're quoting :

"Let’s say Tierney gets an injury..."

"... Saka LM, ESR RM,..."

 

[The_Playmaker]

I am more intrigued by whether he can play in a double pivot alongside Partey. All I hear is talk about him being a 10 and that he can play an 8.

He is good at passes into the box and passes into the final third, but I feel like he can play instead of Xhaka and give more. He can drive forward, is press resistant and he can put a tackle in.

Partey can make Elneny and Xhaka look good. He would be able to play alongside Ødegaard.

I just hope we don't see this weird thing where he doesn't play for ages because he isn't 'ready', then when he does play he benches ESR irrespective of form.

 

[The_Playmaker]

From the post you're quoting :

"Let’s say Tierney gets an injury..."

"... Saka LM, ESR RM,..."

Haha didn't see that. ESR at rwb though...

 

[El Duderino]

are we there yet?

 

[drippin]

Ødegaard isn't coming here to play back up to ESR FFS.

Not knocking ESR, he's my favourite Hale End kid, but it is what it is. You can debate their ceilings but Ødegaard is much further along in his development at this stage.

He's coming here to start. Maybe they'll be some rotation, maybe ESR will get the cup games at 10, maybe Ødegaard with play out on the right occasionally but he's coming here as a starter. Not a bench warmer or back up for a kid with 7 career PL games.

You can believe what you want, but Ødegaard will be a back up for ESR if he doesn't perform better than him.

The player plays more who performs better. Who knows how Ødegaard will adjust to EPL straight away. But both will get a lot of games anyway.

Own youth with a contract will always be preferred to a loan player if everything else is equal.

 

[drippin]

I am more intrigued by whether he can play in a double pivot alongside Partey. All I hear is talk about him being a 10 and that he can play an 8.

He is good at passes into the box and passes into the final third, but I feel like he can play instead of Xhaka and give more. He can drive forward, is press resistant and he can put a tackle in.

Partey can make Elneny and Xhaka look good. He would be able to play alongside Ødegaard.

I just hope we don't see this weird thing where he doesn't play for ages because he isn't 'ready', then when he does play he benches ESR irrespective of form.

Doesn't make much sense to risk ESR & Ødegaard (only two proper AMF's, both with an injury history) by playing both at the same time. We have enough players for all the other positions.

In my opinion these two need to be rotated, even just to keep them fresh. Only in the most important games you could play them together, if it even works with Ødegaard being a CMF.

 

[Oxeki]

Did Gabby not get injured not long after Auba returned?

Auba had a red card vs Crystal palace and missed two further games (Chelsea and Sheffield). Marty started those games and scored in them.
But Auba came back in the Burnley game and Marty was never seen again till he got injured.

 

[DanDare]

This guy allows Saka and ESR to play 2/3 of the total possible minutes and him to play 2/3 of possible minutes shared between AM and RW.

 

[MikeVinna]

Leno

Bellerin Holding Gabriel Tierney

Partey

Saka Smith-Rowe Ødegaard Gabi

Auba

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[billyf]

I don't know about this. Loans don't get me excited. I have my doubts whether he will be able to push himself to the max.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Leno

Bellerin Holding Gabriel Tierney

Partey

Saka Smith-Rowe Ødegaard Gabi

Auba

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Thats too offensive, like me moves on the dancefloor 6 drinks in

 

[DanDare]

Thats too offensive, like me moves on the dancefloor 6 drinks in

Think it's fine Vs low blocks at home

 

[TornadoTed]

Leno

Bellerin Holding Gabriel Tierney

Partey

Saka Smith-Rowe Ødegaard Gabi

Auba

​

Bit too attacking as a starting formation for me but a great option to have if we are chasing a game for the last 1/2 hour.

 

[North5]

Think we have to view this as literally just getting a body in.

That we need this type of deal is a sign that we’re not building our squad properly and have flopped yet another summer window but at least he’s a good player.

 

[Garrincha]

If there is no option to buy then no thanks

not sure its a big issue with how Real are happy to sell these young players with buyback clauses

its not like we have a hope in hell of signing him on a full transfer with no strings attached... but if he settles well over the next few months & Real need to raise some funds we are in poll position to get him on a similar deal to Regulon or previously Morata / Hermoso / Militao / Carvajal / Casemiro

we made this mess with stealing Cesc

 

[krengon]

Dream signing for me as I rate him REALLY highly, but not keen if it’s just a loan with no option.. Hopefully we can somehow sign him permanently.

 

[MaraDon]

is he going to even play for us?
I mean... he is not that good... he needs to adapt... looks like a pointless signing. hope I'm wrong.
I would go for an PL proven player.

 

[al-Ustaadh]

is he going to even play for us?
I mean... he is not that good... he needs to adapt... looks like a pointless signing. hope I'm wrong.
I would go for an PL proven player.

Good luck with getting a proven PL player with our current finances, the current state of the market, and it being a January transfer window. This is probably our best option out there, and good on Edu and Arteta for getting it to actually materialize.