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Maybe

You're wrong, no?
Too many people look at him as a genius or something, but for me, his impact at clubs is mostly overrated.
He won stuff at Barca when it was harder to lose, but even then he almost created problems when he wanted to get rid of Eto'o who was a key player in their success.
Everything else was just meh, domestic trophies with Bayern that could've been won by any farmer in Germany, and some success in PL with City, but even that wasn't anything special because as soon as he got some competition from Liverpool he has failed to compete.
Messi and co.won CL for him, but at other clubs, he didn't have players that will win it for him so he had to be creative and that was a total disaster.

I honestly believe City would be in the finals this year and would probably win it before if someone else was managing them.

He was blessed in his early career to start with a team that had prime Messi, Iniesta, Busquets, and Xavi. Now, imagine him taking that Monaco team that Henry started with and Henry starting like Pep did, it's possible that Henry would be a top manager today and Pep would play golf somewhere with Bale
 

tap-in

Nothing Wrong With Me
Haven't they sacked the bald one yet! What did they win this season? The Micky Mouse Cup or whatever its called now. We won more than that and its our worse season ever!
 

Juan Matas Beard

Pronouns: dat, guy 🫶
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Country: England
If they waited 20 years to have a statue of David Silva, Aguero and Kompany, nobody would have a problem with that.

Just seems slightly premature.
 

Riou

In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over

Country: Northern Ireland

Player:Gabriel
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...this is the first guy City should build a statue of imo.
 

GDeep™

League is very weak
Heard on Talksport that Pep wants 3/4 exceptional signings to win the CL.

So he wants to buy it? Because how is this management? He’s already got probably the best squad in Europe, or second best behind Bayern who probably have better defensive talent.
 

PressResistance

Active Member
Fraudiola looking like he needs another sabbatical.
Man can't even plan for high risk games where SHTF.

He's so stubborn at playing the same concept he played in Barca with 2 CM/CAMs, who are then protected by not even a Senna/Toure, but a wannabe Busquets.

These variants would look fantastic, gives flexibility:

Sterling Jesus Silva
KDB-Garcia-Rodri
New LB-Laporte-Walker-Cancelo
Ederson

Sterling Jesus Mahrez
KDB
Fernandinho-Rodri
Mendy-Koulibaly-Laporte-Walker
Ederson​

There's loads more and with a few sensible buys, to replace Mendy and add something different to their midfield, they 'd actually be more effective. Too much of the same in their case in terms of both the tactics and the recruitment. They actually lack a physical DM, right-footed CB and a proper LB, all could be had for not a lot of money and would give them another dimension. Say add Reguillon, Upamecano and Ndidi, doesn't sound like a Man City summer but would improve them massively, on top of say adding Ake.
 
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AbouCuéllar

Author of A-M essays 📚
Fraudiola looking like he needs another sabbatical.
Man can't even plan for high risk games where SHTF.

He's so stubborn at playing the same concept he played in Barca with 2 CM/CAMs, who are then protected by not even a Senna/Toure, but a wannabe Busquets.

These variants would look fantastic, gives flexibility:

Sterling Jesus Silva
KDB-Garcia-Rodri
New LB-Laporte-Walker-Cancelo
Ederson

Sterling Jesus Mahrez
KDB
Fernandinho-Rodri
Mendy-Koulibaly-Laporte-Walker
Ederson​

There's loads more and with a few sensible buys, to replace Mendy and add something different to their midfield, they 'd actually be more effective. Too much of the same in their case in terms of both the tactics and the recruitment. They actually lack a physical DM, right-footed CB and a proper LB, all could be had for not a lot of money and would give them another dimension. Say add Reguillon, Upamecano and Ndidi, doesn't sound like a Man City summer but would improve them massively, on top of say adding Ake.

You definitely have a different reading of what went wrong for them in Champions League. For me he got it wrong choosing the 3 at the back, he actually should've gone with a more attacking lineup. He came out being conservative, perhaps looking to right some of the wrongs from the past, and all it served was to have a poor first half performance and sow the doubt in his team that is clearly a problem now in Champions League and creating all kinds of strange, really unbelievable mistakes.

Later, you can't really control for Sterling missing that, the referee making a poor decision (that was a clear foul on Laporte and should've been annulled that goal), or Ederson's mistake. But if you're going to blame him for something, surely it's got to be letting the game get to that point where you can be punished for such bad mistakes (refereeing and player), instead of sending his team out to play as it knows and not 'speculate' for a result.

But I think your reading of City's failure is strange, Rodri is a fine player besides and look at the winner Bayern, they are certainly not going with the tactics you are talking about...They were the most aggressive of the teams tactically, going with that 4-2-3-1, and it worked for them. It could've easily gone wrong if Mbappe didn't miss such a clear chance or if Neymar's finish goes between Neuer's leg, but still.

Either way, City's failure against Lyon was certainly down to really an opposite reading of what you're making, so it's strange timing.
 

PressResistance

Active Member
You definitely have a different reading of what went wrong for them in Champions League. For me he got it wrong choosing the 3 at the back, he actually should've gone with a more attacking lineup. He came out being conservative, perhaps looking to right some of the wrongs from the past, and all it served was to have a poor first half performance and sow the doubt in his team that is clearly a problem now in Champions League.

Later, you can't really control for Sterling missing that, the referee making a poor decision (that was a clear foul on Laporte and should've been annulled that goal), or Ederson's mistake.

But I think your reading of City's failure is strange, Rodri is a fine player besides and look at the winner Bayern, they are certainly not going with the tactics you are talking about...They were the most aggressive of the teams tactically, going with that 4-2-3-1, and it worked for them. It could've easily gone wrong if Mbappe didn't miss such a clear chance or if Neymar's finish goes between Neuer's leg, but still.

Either way, City's failure against Lyon was certainly down to really an opposite reading of what you're making, so it's strange timing.

Their failure against Lyon is an anomaly, they can't compete with the big guns physically and are too unbalanced to play Bayern, PSG, Atletico, Red Bull, Liverpool, there 's a type of side they have a hard time with, the same one that ended Pep's Barca, although most sides don't play as directly as Heynckes's Bayern CL winning side.

They can't control those types of games and can't answer to set pieces or physicality when you are too low on legs in midfield, Lyon just showed that in a vacuum scenario where you had 1 game, over 2 games no chance City slip up twice against Lyon.
 

Hleb's Sirush

Established Member
Lyon just showed that in a vacuum scenario where you had 1 game, over 2 games no chance City slip up twice against Lyon.

Even if it was in the group, the season before City played Lyon home and away. Coming away with a loss and a draw. Combining the last 2 seasons they played Lyon 3 times. Losing twice with one draw. Aggregate score of 7-4 to Lyon. Maybe you should add Lyon to the teams you mentioned City clearly struggle with.
 

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