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Rasmi

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Glad someone else is of the same opinion. Sometimes we forget we are no longer that Arsenal. We are this Arsenal. Buy Buendia now. Give ourselves the chance to finish in Europe and build from there. In 2-3 years we can build to the Arsenal some one here think we are. Then we can use CL pedigree and the finance it brings to convince the likes of Grealish. For now he is out of our league. We have an opportunity to get Buendia before he comes the Grealish level.
I don’t think most of our fans want to accept where we are and still want to think of us as this heavyweight and I don’t think they realise when clubs like Liverpool and Milan fell off in order to come back they had t sign players like buendia. Liverpool signed mane from Southampton. Wijnaldum from Newcastle. Robertson from hull. Friminho from hoffeinham. It’s smart signing like this that will get us out of this. Not 80 million for grealish. It’s just bad investment for a team that lacks in so many areas
 

Finesse

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Good discussion for complex weigh ups. I’m not ready to be out of CL for three more seasons, and I don’t think that is compatible with keeping players like Partey and Leno at the same time, but it is a good discussion.

Agreed. You break into the top 6 and then top 4. Before breaking into the top 6 as things stand what do we need? I am watching Leicester as we discuss. There is Everton etc. All looking very good and consistent. Do we have enough to mount into that zone. Or it’s just hope as a Arsenal fan.

We got Partey and Leno without CL football with the promise we can get there. See where we are today. We have an opportunity to strengthen where we had our major setback all season. The central attacking creative game. If we choose to risk with a teenager alone and count on Willian as back up , then so be it. We can discuss CL in a few months again
 

Iceman10

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That’s the thing people seem to not get. He has played in England for years, played in pl and did well and would not need much adjustment. While taking a guy like Auoar who has played in his hometown France all his life and need to get used to England and pl and he may never adjust. We need instant impact to save this season

I’d really like to get a better feel for the development arc of Buendia. Is he a better player than last year even though he is playing in the Championship this season, is there still room to his eventual ceiling from where he is, etc. You both have good points though, will have to think about it more and what the limit to a transfer fee should be.
 

Sebastes

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Without the money how are you gonna push the boat? Call Villa and say we are big club and we demand Grealish? He will be 65-70 million alone and for a club whi has not been in the CL for years and unlikely to even make the Europa league this season. We are not gonna outspend top teams. And if Grealish becomes available you think we would be the only team interested in him? Why would he choose Arsenal ahead of a club like Man U for example? The players who are gonna take us back to CL football wont be big players that will choose us ahead of other top teams. It will be Buendia type of players who the elite teams dont want right now and we have to take a chance on them. Doesnt have to be exactly like him. But it will be player of similar standard we will go for
Glad someone else is of the same opinion. Sometimes we forget we are no longer that Arsenal. We are this Arsenal. Buy Buendia now. Give ourselves the chance to finish in Europe and build from there. In 2-3 years we can build to the Arsenal some one here think we are. Then we can use CL pedigree and the finance it brings to convince the likes of Grealish. For now he is out of our league. We have an opportunity to get Buendia before he comes the Grealish level.
Problem is we’re not the Arsenal you guys seem to think either. By all accounts we need to fund transfers in with outgoings and have a small net spend if any. So getting Buendia in to save our season is way easier said than done. We’re more likely to be able to spend 80m on one player in the summer after some sales than 40m right now.

Our best bet is probably a loan of someone like Eriksen or maybe be able to get Draxler on the cheap and the hope they will help us. Apart from that it’s going to be the team we have now.

I’ll gladly be proven wrong by the club about all this, mind.
 

Finesse

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I’d really like to get a better feel for the development arc of Buendia. Is he a better player than last year even though he is playing in the Championship this season, is there still room to his eventual ceiling from where he is, etc. You both have good points though, will have to think about it more and what the limit to a transfer fee should be.

The profile is right. Take time and watch Norwich this season. There is a lot in him to thrive at Arsenal. Age is correct. Discipline wise correct. Unlike ESR who intelligently basis his game on his first touch and direction , Buendia can do same but actually receive the ball in tight spaces in the opposing half and turn to progress the game. ESR naturally does not have the tenacity to use his body on the half turn. He lays it off and combines to create situations. Özil too due to lack and pace and inability to use his body strength to hold off challenges. Buendia can use his body in central areas and very tenacious in tight spaces even if under pressure. That's the slight difference in their game. Cazorla also had this natural ability in very tight spaces. Both ESR and Buendia have great vision in the final third. Their heat maps show central regions with higher concentration on the RW areas. Spot ESR's, heat map yesterday.
 

The_Playmaker

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The profile is right. Take time and watch Norwich this season. There is a lot in him to thrive at Arsenal. Age is correct. Discipline wise correct. Unlike ESR who intelligently basis his game on his first touch and direction , Buendia can do same but actually receive the ball in tight spaces in the opposing half and turn to progress the game. ESR naturally does not have the tenacity to use his body on the half turn. He lays it off and combines to create situations. Özil too due to lack and pace and inability to use his body strength to hold off challenges. Buendia can use his body in central areas and very tenacious in tight spaces even if under pressure. That's the slight difference in their game. Cazorla also had this natural ability in very tight spaces. Both ESR and Buendia have great vision in the final third. Their heat maps show central regions with higher concentration on the RW areas. Spot ESR's, heat map yesterday.

How are you comparing them. There is literally no evidence whatsoever that Buendia could play 10 effectively. It's the same for Aouar who is a left 8 or left midfielder. Buendia plays on the right. Just like Willian.

Understanding how to play as a 10 is nothing like playing on the right side of midfield.

I kind of like how everything ESR gets downplayed.
 

REWB

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I’d really like to get a better feel for the development arc of Buendia. Is he a better player than last year even though he is playing in the Championship this season, is there still room to his eventual ceiling from where he is, etc. You both have good points though, will have to think about it more and what the limit to a transfer fee should be.

Wonderful player, he has to be the main target for the summer.
 

Rasmi

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How are you comparing them. There is literally no evidence whatsoever that Buendia could play 10 effectively. It's the same for Aouar who is a left 8 or left midfielder. Buendia plays on the right. Just like Willian.

Understanding how to play as a 10 is nothing like playing on the right side of midfield.

I kind of like how everything ESR gets downplayed.
I honestly watched both and buendia is just a better player. We don’t need a nr 10 and ESR is not playing as a classic nr 10. Buendia at Arsenal would become one of the best attacking midfielders in the league. He needs the platform to showcase his talent and connect with better players.
 

Finesse

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Buendia is not worth 40m. Rather get an Eriksen or a christie in now and go big in the summer.
Not paying more than 25m for this guy.

40m is the asking price. Negotiations will bring that down. He is neither a 25M player based on his output and influence on the game. If you are watching him now versus Bristol City and based on how has played all season , one thing is clear he will have more suitors. Some of us dont even bother to watch games and base valuations on YouTube clips etc. Make an effort and you will understand how he can influence our game in the final third , based on how we set up to play , our double pivot system that enables a CAM to thrive and most importantly his mobility , tenacity and vision in the final third.

We should only let this pass if we do not have the money. Then some form of agreement should be made to return in the summer or agree fee now and complete it the summer. He is within our price range , meet our needs now and fits the profile.

Stop this talk about going big in the summer when we have no funds now , making no money due to lockdown and have no valuable assets to sell to raise funds. Are we not tired of hoping for players we cannot afford ? We should take a look at the Leicester model of recruitment , step in early and pick up promising players , get the right mix and build a solid team.
 

TornadoTed

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It's such a joke that we didn't move in for him prior to the start of the season. It was such an obvious purchase.

Who says Norwich wouldn't have asked £40m + then?

They are a really well run club. They sold Godfrey to Everton to balance the books, there is no evidence at all that he was any more available or cheaper before the season than now.
 

Bloodbather

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Who says Norwich wouldn't have asked £40m + then?

They are a really well run club. They sold Godfrey to Everton to balance the books, there is no evidence at all that he was any more available or cheaper before the season than now.

January windows are always more difficult, because it leaves the sellers a smaller window for replacements. This should be common knowledge to anyone who has followed transfer windows at all. January transfers only happen when a player is considered expendable by the club, or when the player forces a move.
 

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TornadoTed

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January windows are always more difficult, because it leaves the sellers a smaller window for replacements. This should be common knowledge to anyone who has followed transfer windows at all. January transfers only happen when a player is considered expendable by the club, or when the player forces a move.

Yes of course it is easier to find a replacement in the summer when you have more time than in January. My point still stands, why would Norwich have accepted a lower fee when they had already balanced the books and were under no pressure to sell?

You are absolutely right about players forcing the move changing the dynamic. If Buendia had been aggravating for a move back in the summer then maybe Norwich accept a lower bid to get rid of an unhappy player but there was no evidence that he was pushing for a move.
 
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