EPL: Arsenal vs. Manchester United - 4/10/15 - 4:00pm

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by Aevi, Sep 30, 2015.

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  1. Saikung

    Saikung Active Member

    Just wondering, would it be more difficult to win the match if cazorla was marked properly by 2/3 players instead of schwensteiger's failure to pressure him?

    Great result for us but tactical disaster for man united as i feel if u pressure santi in his own half due to his lack of strength, it always open up spaces for the opposition
  2. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    Schneiderlin had to start for United. LVG got it wrong.
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  3. 4R5Emaniac

    4R5Emaniac Always fresh from Bangladesh

    LVG got his line up wrong,imo. Don't think Carrick and Schweinsteiger can play together. There was no athleticism in the middle going forward and running back.
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  4. ScotVieira

    ScotVieira Well-Known Member

    He sees them all in training and if Schneiderlin is not seen as being better than the other two, he should not start ahead of them. The guy is a media hype job imo
  5. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    But managers make mistakes. Wenger sees our lads in training every day and yet he's been picking unbalanced sides most weeks this season.
  6. ScotVieira

    ScotVieira Well-Known Member

    Yes, managers are human and they can make mistakes.

    To think that we know better than Wenger in terms of team selection does take the biscuit though; especially because he is the guy who watches them daily and knows their strengths and weaknesses.
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  7. Furious

    Furious Emery Gone, Telly Back On

    Great. The myth(even after his rubbish performances) that Schneiderlin is a good footballer continues.

    What exactly could he have done? We murdered them in the first 20 minutes, they couldn't pass it out of their own half with better passers than Schneiderlin.

    Our second goal came off one of their long balls because they had no clue what to do with the ball. Schneiderlin's distribution is beyond average and levels behind Carrick's and Schweinsteiger's, so he would just have contributed further to their cluelessness.

    We're better in every way than United, we've shown that for a few games now.
  8. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Put it this way Blaze, the way we came out of the blocks smacked off we are better than these let's put them in their place .
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  9. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    The other thing was Ospina was lauded over the summer for his performances in goal for Colombia by pundits across a few channels . You would expect him to catch a ball .
  10. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    Schneiderlin is good but we would have won regardless. Still, how Van Gaal thought 2 old midfielders was the way to go is beyond me.
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  11. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    So, let's accept everything Wenger does?

    Or critique the man who hasn't go us near a league title in 11 years?

    We're out of the CL already aswell.

    It's not like Wenger has been knocking it out of the park with his transfers, selections, subs. Doing just about enough I would say rather than getting us to perform above our level which is surely what a great manager can do.
  12. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    It was a fantastic performance where we scored goals in the period where we were dominant.

    Long-term it doesn't tell me a whole lot about this team though. I'd still have major doubt about us in most areas - manager, tactics, defence(individually and as a unit), scoring enough goals, balance in midfield.
  13. billyf

    billyf Active Member

    The thing is that in the games before the one against Utd we had lost in a certain way. Our opponents played 3 in the middle, defended deeply and hit us in the counter. LVG did none of these things and he payed it with a big loss. Humongous let down for a manager of his age and experience.
  14. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    They defended deep, really deep for the first 10 mins at least .
  15. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    We were very mature in our performance. But we do have a few mature performances each season, that is right. I expect another team to show up against Watford.
  16. juice man

    juice man Well-Known Member

    I agree, we won it in the middle of the park. But TBH, I don't really rate Schneiderlin that highly, I don't think he would have made much of a difference.
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  17. Balance is key

    Balance is key Well-Known Member

    People still think Ramsey was key for our goals and had a good game ? besides his pass to Özil, a pass anyone could make, he wasnt involved in our goals - yet a lot claims he was critical.

    looking at the game and the stats - his attacking play was utter **** - dispossessed a lot, lousy shot at goal, no key passes, no good runs, nothing good attacking wise.

    but his passing, tackling, workrate, interceptions were very good.

    Get him away from the RW spot and put him where his skills are most useful in the santi spot.
  18. Modiga

    Modiga Member

    What about his pass to Walcott?
  19. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    He wasn't involved in Sanchez's goal? OK.
  20. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    His key pass to Özil was perfect, think Ramsey owns 1/3 in Sanchez goal!

    Just look at Sanchez at celebrations, keep pointing at Ramsey.
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