Yh that's the thing this season, it's harder to judge performances. Like players and coaches can still be good or bad at their jobs, but it feels more random this year. Chelsea could win two on the bounce and be back in the top 4.
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Chelsea FC: Carabottlejobs
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Yh that's the thing this season, it's harder to judge performances. Like players and coaches can still be good or bad at their jobs, but it feels more random this year. Chelsea could win two on the bounce and be back in the top 4.
They'll just sack Lamps, bring in Tuchel, he'll get the German boys firing, send Mount on loan to Doncaster or somewhere, probably win them a Europa League before getting sacked in 18 months time for a bust-up with the board. Then they'll hire someone else who'll win them something else.
They'll be fine, they always are.
They'll be fine, they always are.
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
Surely that just means the manager should be able to see this too? They do have a big striker in Giroud to put next to him.
Maybe go 4-4-2 with Havertz and Pulisic feeding Giroud/Werner...
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
...go on, Avram son!
GDeep™
League is very weak
Most of those managers took over power packed and top Chelsea teams. Frank is one of the few, if only, who has had to come in and build a new team.
...go on, Avram son!
No top centre backs, no striker, a midfield with an injured and massively declining Kante, Hazard sold and a transfer ban.
Bloodbather
Established Member
Country: Turkey
The key for Chelsea is to maximize the impact of Werner and Havertz, because they are the most promising players they have on the team despite the struggles, and they aren't doing that.
They're treating Werner as a wide LW or a lone CF, when he's neither of those things. Werner is effective when he can play as an inside forward, or as a second striker next to a taller, physical target man.
As for Havertz, he's either an advanced central playmaker in a 4-2-3-1, a false nine in a 4-3-3, or one of the forwards in a two-man front duo. Doesn't have the pace to play on the wing, and his end product threat is diminished when he doesn't play centrally and closer to the goal.
Chelsea's squad is so oddly built that you're going to have sacrifice some players. You can't accommodate Pulisic and Werner simultaneously, it's difficult to maximize the impact of Havertz and Ziyech simultaneously, any approach that has Werner as a LW and Ziyech as a RW is oddly balanced, you can't find a formula that enables you to play Abraham, Havertz and Mount together. Havertz was an opportunistic purchase, and I do think Chelsea were wise to invest in him when they could, but it did throw a monkey wrench into their squad engineering.
I think Lampard has to be inventive to make it work. One thing he has yet to try is to go for a wingless 4-1-2-1-2 Diamond with Ziyech as the #10 and Werner and Havertz as the front duo. I think that could be the one formation that maximizes the impact. Looks like this:
---------------Mendy------------------
James--Zouma-Silva--Chilwell------
---------------Kanté---------------------
-------Kovačić----Mount-------------
---------------Ziyech---------------------
-------Havertz-----Werner------------
They're treating Werner as a wide LW or a lone CF, when he's neither of those things. Werner is effective when he can play as an inside forward, or as a second striker next to a taller, physical target man.
As for Havertz, he's either an advanced central playmaker in a 4-2-3-1, a false nine in a 4-3-3, or one of the forwards in a two-man front duo. Doesn't have the pace to play on the wing, and his end product threat is diminished when he doesn't play centrally and closer to the goal.
Chelsea's squad is so oddly built that you're going to have sacrifice some players. You can't accommodate Pulisic and Werner simultaneously, it's difficult to maximize the impact of Havertz and Ziyech simultaneously, any approach that has Werner as a LW and Ziyech as a RW is oddly balanced, you can't find a formula that enables you to play Abraham, Havertz and Mount together. Havertz was an opportunistic purchase, and I do think Chelsea were wise to invest in him when they could, but it did throw a monkey wrench into their squad engineering.
I think Lampard has to be inventive to make it work. One thing he has yet to try is to go for a wingless 4-1-2-1-2 Diamond with Ziyech as the #10 and Werner and Havertz as the front duo. I think that could be the one formation that maximizes the impact. Looks like this:
---------------Mendy------------------
James--Zouma-Silva--Chilwell------
---------------Kanté---------------------
-------Kovačić----Mount-------------
---------------Ziyech---------------------
-------Havertz-----Werner------------
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GDeep™
League is very weak
Rodgers is favourite for the job.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
AS: The players who want to sack Frank Lampard are foursome: Alonso, Kepa, Rudiger and Jorginho.
Papa Wonga
Established Member
Alonso you could undestand, they both disliked each-other, but I thought he constantly played Jorginho?
Kepa lmao reasonable, and rudiger reasonable. All in all, apart from Jorginho, reasonable.
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
This is the equivalent of Cedric, Runnarson, Mustafi and Elneny wanting Arteta sacked tbf
Taneruit
Established Member
Country: Switzerland
Player:Zinchenko
There's a porn joke in here somewhere, I just know it.
All 4 have been useless this season. Kepa for one is a waste of space who will never guard a goal for Chelsea again.
GeorgiaGunner
#FreeClaude
What a legacy he’ll have left — disobeying the coach and probably being the biggest (money-wise) signing bust in PL history.
Country: Canada
Would make sense, didn't he start his career there?
Country: Wales
Why is it always the bums gunning for the manager?
Like Sokratis trying to get Arteta sacked.
Country: England
Interestingly enough both clubs have very similar issues.
Both clubs will deal with it differently though as we are about to found out.
