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Granit Xhaka: Managers Love Him!

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Marjorie, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. Trilly

    Trilly Full-Time Respecter Of Women Trusted

    It was years ago, get over it man. :lol::lol:
     
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  2. Wrighty4eva

    Wrighty4eva Well-Known Member

    Would have loved for Gallas to be tasered, hated every minute he wore our shirt after that meltdown he had.
     
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  3. Macho

    Macho Has Trust Issues With Processes Trusted

    I don’t wish anybody to get tasered unnecessarily, but yeah I was never fond of Gallas at Arsenal.

    When it came to a head where it came down to Gallas or Kolo, Wenger’s choice kinda hurt me as how could you not be team Kolo.

    Really didn’t help the French bias accusations Wenger got at the time either, but I suspect it was more to do with the (overrated) reputation Gallas had in football at the time. I remember a lot of people at the same saying we got the better deal when Cole went the other way, obviously complete horsesh*t in hindsight. Not that Cole would have fit in here anyways, Chelsea seemed to suit him more.
     
  4. Riou

    Riou A-M's Resident Jobber

    I assumed Arsène only picked Gallas back then, as we could get much more money for Toure, that's the only reason we sold Kolo...as pretty much everyone in the squad disliked Billy G by 2009 :lol:
     
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  5. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Wenger signed Xhaka. Wenger highly rates Xhaka.
     
  6. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    Wenger signed Mustafi. Wenger highly rated Mustafi.
     
  7. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Wenger gets his defenders wrong. He usually gets midfielders right.
     
  8. Macho

    Macho Has Trust Issues With Processes Trusted

    Makes a lot of sense.
     
  9. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    Wenger called Xhaka a b2b midfielder. Yeah he got it right.
     
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  10. Ash10

    Ash10 Jury Lite

    'Usually' being the keyword here
     
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  11. Atlas

    Atlas Well-Known Member

    Stoke paid 4m for Charlie Adam we should get at least double that for the Swiss version, luxury packaging and all that.
     
  12. Geofranco

    Geofranco Well-Known Member

    Old man Wengz thought Sanogo had potential. We all know Wenger was also very good at picking forwards. Loved the great man, but he became a bit senile as time went on.
     
  13. novar

    novar Well-Known Member

    Sanogo was a cheap gamble, Xhaka was the mistake that costed Wenger his career.

    The plane banners should have said Xhaka Out
     
  14. roz

    roz Fake News Merchant

    Whilst you might be joking I actually 100% think this is correct. Our trajectory has plummeted ever since this utter melt joined us.

    Not a coincidence. Not a single strength to this guy’s game. Hate seeing his smug face wear the shirt. He’s not the worst player we’ve had by a longshot but he is incapable of putting in above a 6/10 performance and thats on his best days.

    Proper midtable CM, not surprised thats exactly where we are.
     
  15. Geofranco

    Geofranco Well-Known Member

    It was Xhaka and Mustafi. Both of the them officially signaled the end of Arsenal as a top 4 club (plus the Cazorla injury). That window when we didn't get any outfield player and only got Cech, an over the hill Chelsea GK (although he was decent his first season here), plus the next window being the one we got Xhaka, Mustafi and Lucas Perez, was the beginning of the end for Wenger's reign. We are still suffering the consequences and will prob suffer for at least 2/3 more years.
     
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  16. Macho

    Macho Has Trust Issues With Processes Trusted

    I have no time for the guy but not a single strength is not true :lol:

    He’s a midtable midfielder at least. For a sh*t team he’d be that guy taking all the set pieces and stuff.

    Also, I think he’s almost a different player at international level so you have to wonder what instructions and role he’s been given at club football.

    I don’t think he’s as bad as people make out.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2020
  17. Blood on the Tracks

    Blood on the Tracks Well-Known Member

    Xhaka isn't as bad as some make out. He's a steady player as a back up and is pretty good at a few things. If we'd have bought him for £10m you'd think he's limited but a decent enough back up for the price. Paying £35m for him was daylight robbery though. Terrible business. His total lack of pace, mobility and the fact he constantly gets caught on the ball is infuriating.

    I think for most fans Xhaka perfectly symbolises the fall from grace of the club over the last 5 years or so and that's why he gets so much hate.

    Is it fair? Probably not. Can I understand it? Yes
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2020
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  18. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap In midfield with Cellabos

    Yeah, completely agree with this. The thing is Xhaka was meant to be the start of something new. Our ball progression was terrible when Santi was out and when you have Coquelin and Ramsey at the base of your midfield, it’s very hard to move the ball forwards. So, up comes Xhaka, the “controlla” we’ve been waiting for. He was seen as the perfect blend of leadership, technical ability and steel that Arsenal have been lacking for years, finally the Alonso type midfielder we needed but he is probably closer in talent to Charlie Adam than Alonso.

    For me he is the poster boy of StatDna and the start of everything wrong with the direction this club was going. He was an overpriced squad member that failed his way to becoming an important member of the team. At least Mustafi and Kolasanic are bad and we can all accept that but Xhaka is different because of his perceived “leadership” qualities. Even Emery couldn’t go through with the Xhaka captaincy nonsense and hid behind the players.

    He’s just a painfully average footballer that has somehow amassed a cult out of pity or pure delusion. What I mean is that some people only rate Xhaka because of how ugly things got with the abuse and the online torment he was receiving and thus they overrate Xhaka’s importance out of guilt. I have said before that people love a comeback story, even if the player isn’t very good. On the other hand you have guys who love Xhaka for the same reason why some men love to see their wives get ploughed to smithereens by another man. I’m not sure what the appeal is but I don’t think I want to know.
     
  19. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap In midfield with Cellabos

    I was having this debate with my friend and we were trying to rank Xhaka amongst Arsenal midfielders in the Emirates era. The criteria had to be starting CM/DMs and those with over 50 appearances for Arsenal. My list went like this:

    1. Fabregas
    2. Cazorla
    3. Wilshere
    4. Ramsey
    5. Gilberto Silva (the final two seasons of his Arsenal career)
    6. Song
    7. Arteta
    8. Flamini (the first time)
    9. Diaby
    10. Denilson
    11. Coquelin
    12. Xhaka
    13. Guendouzi
    14. Elneny
    15. Torreira
    16. Flamini (the second time)
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2020
  20. roz

    roz Fake News Merchant

    Plenty of midtable CMs better or on par with him.
    Shelvey, Riedewald, Bissouma, Phillips...
    All as good if not better than Xhaka.

    International football is weird as teams can look better than they are as so many other teams expected to be good are awful. Not a single standout team in International football at the moment, maybe France but purely down to strength in numbers in terms of quality.
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2020

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