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thugzclub

Member
When Steve Bennett blew the final whistle at the conclusion of Saturday’s game, I stood up and sighed. Strange feeling. I leaned out of the way, so those around me could get past and shuffle their way to the nearest exit. I took my hands out of my pockets and briefly applauded the players for their efforts. I swung my leg over the back of the next seat and stepped into the empty row behind. The crowd continued to trundle along the rows and down the aisles. Most of them were soon swallowed up in the exits before spewing out into the surrounding streets. I didn’t feel like joining them just yet. To be honest, I felt a bit confused. After a defeat, especially one at home against bitter rivals, various feelings come to the fore. Anger. Rage. Frustration. Resignation. And yet on Saturday I felt nothing.

I leaned over to a friend and asked how he felt. “Hate losing to the Mancs”, was the predictable reply. “Who doesn’t?” I thought. “But is it as bad as previous years?” I probed. “Not sure. Think so. I just don’t like them. I don’t know”.

I sort of knew where he was coming from. Minutes after a game is the worse time to ask any fan for a rational view of the immediate events. In many cases it is also the most honest and revealing time. But the result wasn’t sticking in my gut the way it used to or indeed should have. And it began to gnaw at me for the rest of the afternoon. When I watched Kevin Keegan later jokingly reply to an interviewer’s question about the previous week’s result against Oldham with a retort of “What happened last week?” I could understand why he couldn’t be bothered re-treading old ground. It was history and now confined to the stats books. I felt like that within minutes of the end of our encounter with the Mancunians

On the way home that night, I sat and wondered why I seemed to have rationalised what had happened that afternoon. Why wasn’t I more wound up? This is probably the sort of thing psychopaths do when trying to justify their actions. No matter how brutal or obscene they’ve been, they can come up with a sane explanation that sounds entirely plausible. That’s if you didn’t know better. Yet there hadn’t been any metaphorical slaughter at Anfield that day. In fact it was more of a paper cut sort of day. Where was the Keano who had tried to end Alfie Haaland’s career? Where was the Stevie G that causes more than a few of us to wince when he lunges into tackles? Where was the Steve McMahon’s and Norman Whiteside’s of past encounters. The Tommy Smith’s and Nobby Stiles?

I spent more time considering what a decent signing Heinze looks and wondering how his fellow Argentine, Pellegrino was able to communicate with the rest of the back four.

I pondered how we both have ended up with two goalkeepers a piece that make David James look as safe as houses.

I contemplated why we both have to trawl the planet to find decent players that know how to score goals and then wonder why neither can get a shot on target, except for a spotty teenager who grew up under our noses.

I reflect why the same spotty teenager can so easily forget his roots and community and be so full of anger and attitude when he should be enjoying the fact that he has one of the best jobs in the country.

I recall stories of George Best having to play in training without one of his boots so that he was able to develop his other foot to the same level of skill. And I look at highly paid professional players that have to run around the ball because they don’t have the confidence to play it first time with their weaker foot. And I ask how come they have played hundreds of games at this level and yet they still have the same weaknesses. What do they do in the afternoons?

I see players that shrug their shoulders when their little flicks and turns don’t come off and I wonder what Shanks would have made of them. Or Busby. As Tommy Docherty once said, “There are players out there that can trap a ball further than I can kick it”.

I think of the media hype and how we are told these players are incredible and I despair at yet another millionaire hitting an inaccurate pass to a colleague 30 yards away. And I shake my head at how many international caps this player has.

Is this what it has become?

That we accept mediocrity and the banal because we are fed the same bile repetitively that we begin to believe it. We are told that these are the elite. I even feel sorry for the managers and coaches who have been hoodwinked by these frauds.

I feel even sorrier for the fans who have paid hard earned cash to support them and whose money is used to buy them and offer them cushy contracts. And I consider the shipyard workers, the dockers and miners that once filled the terraces and wonder if they would be taken in by these conmen or would they see straight through them? Would they give them the benefit of the doubt?

And I come back again and look at the Kop. And think of the Stretford End. The Gallowgate. The North Bank. I hear, ’You’ll never walk alone’. The din of ‘Glory, Glory Tottenham Hotspur’. The Roker Roar. The Pompey Chimes. Blue Moon. And we’ve been doing this for generations. For over a century. Of standing in ****ty grounds. Now being forced to sit in horrible, plastic, artificial concrete soulless bowls. Being soaked to the skin. Being served up crap food and treated as the lowest of the low. Being ripped off ridiculously to watch 22 grown men kick a football around a grass pitch. All because you love your sport. You love the game. And the comradeship. And your team. And I ask myself why do I keep doing this. Is it a drug? Is it some sort of compulsive disorder that I can’t stop? Is there a self-help group out there for football fans?

And yet we still label players as super stars and I wonder why? They’re kicking a lump of plastic round a pitch, for pity’s sake. I guess it comes down to the fact that you have to be a realist and understand your limitations. And at the moment we are severely limited. Not in the Exeter City or Doncaster Rovers type of way, but as one of the biggest clubs in Europe, we have ourselves in an awkward position with little money to spend, more debts than we care to admit and too many average players that shouldn’t be seen anywhere near a team with championship aspirations. And you wonder why my enthusiasm was numb at the end of the game? Maybe just a reality check.

And yet despite all the hype and drivel spouted in the press and on the TV, I look at Rafa Benitez and Alex Ferguson and essentially I see two honest, driven men that have a competitive urge to be the best, to be successful, not tolerating second best. I see their enthusiasm and passion and listen to Wenger and Mourinho and hear their intensity and I still believe it really does mean something to them. That it isn’t all hype. It isn’t about money and big contracts. Or who has the biggest sponsorship deals. Or has the most glamorous pre-season tours. It’s about winning. And medals and trophies. It’s about Glory. And as fans we all want to share in that experience.

But sometimes I feel it’s the coaches and the fans that still have the passion and it’s the ones on the pitch that need the reality check and realise their responsibilities. And it makes it harder to get excited in a positive way when you see someone that cost the equivalent of the GNP of a small central American country stroll through a game with a care-free attitude. And I think of what Joe Fagan said to one of our scouts who had been watching a player and had reeled off an assessment of his various abilities, “No, no,” said Joe, “Forget about that. We just want to know……… is he a ****ing winner?” And that is the bottom line. You can have all the talent in the world and be technically gifted, but if you don’t have that attitude and confidence, if not arrogance, you won’t go far. Next time you watch the team, look at each player and ask yourself, “Is he a winner? Will this player help us win a championship?”
 

air

Well-Known Member
Nice article. I think Gerard Houllier did a very good job if the goal was to turn Liverpool into an average team.
 

stevieboy2k

Active Member
Air, thats rubbish what you say about Houllier turning us into an average team. What he inherited when he came to the club was a squad of players at the wrong ends of their careers, a club whose facilities were stuck in the early 90's and an array of players more bothered about picking up their wages than they were in playing for Liverpool FC.

Yeah, you can list players like Diouf and Diao who look like poor signings now, but at the time and on the back of the world cups they had nobody would've argued about their transfers. Hindsight is a wonderful thing afterall. Also for every poor signing that he made, he also made very good ones. Players like Hyypia,Dudek (who was brilliant until 18months ago),Hamann,Kewell,Babbel and younger players like Pongolle,Le Tallec,Riise,Baros,Cisse,Kirkland. Lets not also forget how he helped Gerrard develop, not only mentally but the way he helped him through his growing pains.

Away from the pitch was arguably his biggest achievements. He had a massive hand in developing Melwood and bringing us in line with the Man Utd's etc in terms of training ground. He rid the club of the spice boy culture and helped turn round players like Carragher who were on a slippery slope.

Add to this the fact he took us through our most successful spell in the past 14years. To win those trophies was a fantastic feat. Ok you may say its not the league or CL, but you ask any real Liverpool fan about how they felt about winning those trophies and everyone of them will tell you how elated they were.

Houllier did alot for this club and he put us back on the european footballing map. I, along with many others will be forever grateful for what he did for the club. Yes he did make mistakes in reflection, and maybe he was that little bit short of being a Wenger or Ferguson in terms of league success, but he was still a superb manager for us.
 

air

Well-Known Member
Well, his biggest achievements must have been off the pitch, because on the pitch they played football with no technical level whatsoever, and I think it can still be seen in their game.
 

Canuck

Established Member
Well you've got a highly respected manager now and you're still playing crap football at the moment...

Losing to Saints 2-0 today~!
Morientes and Pellegrino (isn't that a bottled water brand?) apparently need some more time to get up to "English Speed"
 

stevieboy2k

Active Member
It takes time for players to adapt to the premiership especially when theyve been playing in a league where they're used to time on the ball.

Your own Pires struggled for the first season of his career over here.
 

Canuck

Established Member
Ya, of course it's accepted as common knowledge that some adjusting time is needed, but that doesn't explain the performances of the other 8 players running around out there.
 

Asterix

Established Member
Nice read from thugz - I suspect the article reflects a growing maturity on the part of the author - realising there are more important things in the world, but finding it hard to escape from the inexorable pull football has on us. it's a good escape, but not enough to really want to kill Wayne Rooney.





Maybe just rough him up a little bit.
 

RockyRocastle

Established Member
I wish Liverpool fans would stop saying they won five cups that year.

Two dont count, they robbed us, should have lost to Brum and were very very lucky in the Uefa final.

They used up all their luck that year, and are paying for it now. :lol:
 

total_football

Active Member
Great read!
I think its unfair to say Liverpool are playing crap football. I didn't get a chance to watch the 2-0 lose but heard they played very poorly. Keep in mind we play like crap some weeks too. I feel Liverpool are at an important stage right now where they could turn into a solid team, but thats only if Gerrard decides to stay and put in some more hardwork. Does anyone else think that Baros is an incredibly amazing player?
 

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