gunnertilldeath said:
vin de guerre said:
micky_sims said:
If you hadn't noticed we had the best defensive record last season and there were no departure apart from Martin Keown who was a peripheral figure for us. There was no need to tamper with a winning formula and most of what is happening now is due to Gilberto being out. Not Sol because he was out for a period last seaon and Cygan played, and Lauren was also out for a period as well and Cygan played and during that time we had a very impressive record of like 4 goals conceded in 10 or so matches. So there really was no need to change it around. Note he only wanted to get in a right back and not a centre back. No one could have forseen our current midfield crisis so it wasn't his faault for not getting anpther one as when everyone is fit we have a hard enough time to get all of them into the first XVI.coolcool2 said:
Did you not notice we dodn't have all that much money then. Or do you think Arsène has this hidden magical money tree he is hiding from everyone. He didn't have money and even if he did at that point in time he didn't feel the need to get one. And the money we have now was freed up from the deal we made with Emirates a month or so ago so we didn't have and cash to splash.
So how are you so sure that RvP will take it any better than Bergkamp. He deserves his chance because he has been such a loyal servant to this club and can do everything that RvP can do except maybe run as fast. He has that experience and knows what is needed. For all his bad form I know who I'd pick in a big game situation and who I'd bet my house on to make a bigger impact in a crucial match. Don't get me wrong I love RvP and want to see him play soon but there has to be a reason he isn't playing doesn't there?
What has RvP done to DESERVE this chance. Yes he is playing well in the reserves and CC but then again so is Pennant and so was Aliadiere but where did they get. Those two competitions cannot becomapred to the big thing. You saw the gulf in class between the two and Ali who has been phenomenal in the youths and reserves and CC has done nothing in any full first team game. He scored in a sub appearance close to when he joined as well. Pennant has a bigger case. He's been consistently performing in these cups, scored a hat trick on his debut (that's what you call DESERVING compared to RvP) and played a whole season in the EPL with an established side that unfortunately got relagated. He was one of their stars. Yes RvP is great but he has hardly done anything to warrant or DESERVE a place in the side.
They can actually. Not the words themselves but how they are used. Like when Ibrahimovic said he will be one of the strongest players in the world soon i.e well built, the put himacross as arrogant enough to say he will be the strongest as in best. I'm not saying these were done here but you didn't see the whole interviewso you really can't say one way or the other, but in any case you know never to trust Wenger in interviews. I mean he was the guy who said he wished Santa would give him money to but his family Christmas presents when asked about potential transfers, but then went on to spalsh upwards of 10 milion for Reyes.
No and the team and fans know we didn't play well but it is no use saying we are **** and being doom mongerers now is there. It won't really help. Take a positive spin on things you know like everything else in life. Show us what we did well and we can build on that while simultaneaously correcting what went wrong behind closed doors. Like Aussie said "No use saying we played s**t to the media and next thing you know its on the front of every paper in England. Not good for the players confidence when the manager slates them to the media".
Ray was sold because he wanted to leave. He needed game time and if you are saying squad depth I think 5 players competing for one spot is depth enough. He could have been blamed if he had three players for 2 spots. 4 is even enough. When they are fit can we even find a place on the bench for all of them. That's depth enough. If one person got injured he has backup and he knows he needs backup for at least one player. Then he has backup for the other starter. He also has backup for both the backups in Flamini. He could be forgiven to think that that is enough can't he. Would you have though three players in the same position would get injured at the same time. That is a freak incidence and is unlikely to occur again.coolcool2 said:
You are now going back to two seasons. If we never nought him then you would be complaining about depth for that season. Also even if he didn't use the money then, I think it would have gone towards construction of the stadium. About Upson he was not forced to leave. Quite the contrary. Wenger wanted him to stay but you can't keep a player against his will. I'd rather have a crap player who wants to play for us than someone who doesn't He was just too impatient. Had he stayed he would have got a chance later that season when we were struggling don't you think. The n by now he could have been an establushed figure, doubt it though. He has never really impressed me.
That was the last few matches and Bergy was out of sorts. On his day can you compare the two? Whp would have thoughtit would have carried on this long? I want RvP to playbut at any goven moment Bergy can be back to his best and start changing things. I think Arsène is giving him some time and if this continues he will be benched. And some people on here read too much into RvP's headering capabilities. Just because Arsène said he is capable doesn't mean he is the best. Yes granted he gets a lot of chances we might see a few goals but until we see enough of him I reserve judgement on that bit of his game.
He had saved us once but Pennant basically won us a game. Ali got us back into the Liverpool match last season with his pass that eventually set up Pires. I want him to be given a chance as well. Yes he needs a full chance to start to deserve something which was my original point but the fact remains he was told to bide his time, LEARN from Bergy and his chance will come. He just needs to be patient, which at the moment he is.
Yet again will publically slating them be a good thing or a bad thing. I think it will be bad because it willhit the players confidence as they will feel the manager dowsn't think they are good enough and it will also deteriorate the bond and team spirit within the camp. They will lose trust in Arsène, which is one of the main reasons players have been coming to Arsenal and actually staying, i.e Pires, Henry, Vieira etc. Their bond is great and they only slate each other in private. They keep what happens in the dressing room in the dressing room and know what is needed from them.
You are now going back to two seasons. If we never nought him then you would be complaining about depth for that season. Also even if he didn't use the money then, I think it would have gone towards construction of the stadium. About Upson he was not forced to leave. Quite the contrary. Wenger wanted him to stay but you can't keep a player against his will. I'd rather have a crap player who wants to play for us than someone who doesn't He was just too impatient. Had he stayed he would have got a chance later that season when we were struggling don't you think. The n by now he could have been an establushed figure, doubt it though. He has never really impressed me.coolcool2 said:
Parlour got his fair share of chances. As I stated before any player who is old anough and hes anough experience for the big games will be given a go. Otherwise they will wait for their 10-15 minutes and gain experience through tose times for a season or two. After that they will be goven a good chance.
You are right that he should be put on earlier as such a late sub appearance is almost not worthy of one as it takes a bit of time to get into the game. I feel that was as well but he seems to want to keep the player he has chosen beforehand with such time and calculation. He thought long and hard who he wants to play each match using lots of statistics found in training and once he chooses he doesn't want to undermine himself.
I replied to Pennant above as it had points regarding the last post as well.
The thing is I don't see anything constructive from it. Constructive is when you take someone outside and tell them what they are doing wrong. Not stating it in front of everyone. It's like a teacher or parent. They take you aside and tell you off. In front of everyone the player themself will get frustrated as he knows he isn't performing and he just needs the manager to take him aside. Telling it infront of everyone is stating the obvious. Why repeat what everyone knows and knock the player's confidence? What difference could slating them in public do in a gpood way. Surely it would be better to tell them the can perform better on the side. They probably even know that themselves and the public do too so putting it in the open will only make the issue drag on and will play on the players minds whenever he is playing because he will keep thinking about what the public think and will not be concentrating enough on his own game. Putting it in veiw is just adding to the pressure and will have an adverse affect eventually on this tight knit club.
The slump I am talking about is in the league and all competitoons on average in every season.
