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Find that pairing (Xhaka/Guendouzi) so dull.
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Joe Willock: 2019/2020 Performances
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Country: England
Country: Australia
The way I look at it Guedo?xhaa is a very passive duo but who does Douzi partner ? It's not Torreira imo , Douzi wonder off too often and Lucas can't sit by himself . Guendo?Willock lack of experience .
He's the odd man out unless he learns to be a proper holder .
Iceman10
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Douzi himself is a young talented player in development, still only 20. It's really more on the manager to define individual roles in CM, and how the three players there best complement each other. It's more about instructions and coaching than benching, imo. Fine-tuning details one would expect the manager to get into in his second season, and from what have seen I think Unai Emery will get around to working on this.
Country: Australia
I agree which is why it's perplexing for me that he still roams around like he does away form his mid partner .
Country: Wales
I think you have to pair him with Torreira and Ceballos as first choice.
You can’t get away with a midfield two unless you’ve got absolute top quality midfielders and we don’t have those yet.
A midfield three with those in has balance and creativity.
Country: Australia
Yup was thinking in a two , a three makes much more sense .
Iceman10
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Slight drawback here perhaps is a lack of range of passing. This is a problem in general with what we've got, tbh, but Ceballos is not a substitute for Özil's passing, at least in the attacking third, imo.
Country: England
Guendouzi is too slow at releasing the ball, needs to stop trying to dribble past players when he just gets outmuscled and falls over half the time. Willock has that physicality over him, underrated passer too.
Country: England
Torreira
Ceballos Willock
No chance of seeing it though.Ceballos Willock
Country: Australia
You could put Willock in that Ramsey wing role we used to play where he basically came and outnumbered when we had the ball .
Country: England
Probably my favourite midfield, but lacks so much PL experience. I'd like to see it at some point though.
Country: Wales
Depends how Emery sets us up, if we’re looking to play quick transition football you don’t a need ball dominant attacking midfielder like an Özil.
All you need is to get it to PEA/Laca/Pepe as soon as possible after winning the ball back, if you want to dominate possession more put Özil on the wing as part of a front three.
mavelous
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So basically, as a consensus, we agree that we need a CM with vision of fabregas, passing range of pirlo, iniesta like dribbling, and who dominates the area like xavi. All rolled into one.
Other than that they are all crap
Other than that they are all crap
Iceman10
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Maybe, this is where I was headed in general in thinking, because was going to say we can't just look at the CM based on last season or in this one match. It is about how it will hook up with whatever Unai Emery plans for the attacking line, and indeed if he plans to play Auba-Laca-Pepe regularly (with overlapping full-backs in Tierney and Bellerin). Hopefully this will all organically sort itself out over the next couple of months, assuming Unai Emery has the required vision and coaching skills (I have no reason to doubt him at this point).
Underhill
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How has Xhakas experience helped him?
Country: England
He probably does more than we think, just not great on the ball.
YeahBee
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Did you not see how he fooled that guy to take a dive?
TornadoTed
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My dream setup long term is a 3 of,
A physical baller like Rodri or Fernandinho,
Ceballos Willock
Country: England
When Xhaka isn’t costing us games he’s useful.
Pikachu boy mentioned it in a tongue in cheek way but you can’t walk in and just complete 70+ passes in a PL game without having something about you. He keeps us ticking over, it’s other problems that he has.
Country: England
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As mids go, Willock is better further forward with quick passes and sharper running. Quite tenacious too with well time tackling.
Douzi is better further back, always showing for the ball and can drop his shoulder to pass an on running forward and make fairly incisive passes. Pirlo-esque. He needs to work on his tackling, stop wandering so much and fill out a bit.
Both these players have massive potential and will be better than Xhaka and Torreira in a couple of years, who are both limited in my view.
Douzi is better further back, always showing for the ball and can drop his shoulder to pass an on running forward and make fairly incisive passes. Pirlo-esque. He needs to work on his tackling, stop wandering so much and fill out a bit.
Both these players have massive potential and will be better than Xhaka and Torreira in a couple of years, who are both limited in my view.
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