Mesut Özil: 2019/20 Performances

[Moah]

Let's look at the facts:
1. Arsenal are the only team in the league to implement a pay reduction for players
2. The players association advised that players not agree to pay cuts, and recommended deferrals instead
3. Özil was fine with a deferral, even at a higher proportion than other players
4. Özil was open to a pay cut if the club could provide clarity on how the money would be used
5. Other players also were also reluctant to agree to a pay cutd ue to the lack of clarity, but most eventually agreed after Arteta urged them to do so
6. Somebody at the club leaked that Özil did not accept the pay cut
7. Özil was not the only player to refuse the pay cut, but his name was the only name leaked
8. Once the club cut 55 staff members, other plays became upset because they had understood that their pay reduction would go towards saving jobs, and feel that they were misled by the club
9. Not a single source, named or otherwise, has denied anything Özil has said. Say what you will about Özil, but he has never struck me as a liar.

Unless you believe Özil is straight up lying (not a single source, named or unnamed, has denied any of what he said), it's clear that the club were in the wrong here, first by pushing the players to accept the pay cut without providing an adequate level of transparency, and 2nd by leaking Özil's name, thereby justifying Özil's assertion that people are out to get him.

I literally said I agree with his point.

 

[Divided_Pie]

I literally said I agree with his point.

I wasn't arguing with you, just expanding on things.

 

[GDeep™]

Let's look at the facts:
1. Arsenal are the only team in the league to implement a pay reduction for players
2. The players association advised that players not agree to pay cuts, and recommended deferrals instead
3. Özil was fine with a deferral, even at a higher proportion than other players
4. Özil was open to a pay cut if the club could provide clarity on how the money would be used
5. Other players also were also reluctant to agree to a pay cutd ue to the lack of clarity, but most eventually agreed after Arteta urged them to do so
6. Somebody at the club leaked that Özil did not accept the pay cut
7. Özil was not the only player to refuse the pay cut, but his name was the only name leaked
8. Once the club cut 55 staff members, other plays became upset because they had understood that their pay reduction would go towards saving jobs, and feel that they were misled by the club
9. Not a single source, named or otherwise, has denied anything Özil has said. Say what you will about Özil, but he has never struck me as a liar.

Unless you believe Özil is straight up lying (not a single source, named or unnamed, has denied any of what he said), it's clear that the club were in the wrong here, first by pushing the players to accept the pay cut without providing an adequate level of transparency, and 2nd by leaking Özil's name, thereby justifying Özil's assertion that people are out to get him.

Superb posting.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

Let's look at the facts:
1. Arsenal are the only team in the league to implement a pay reduction for players
2. The players association advised that players not agree to pay cuts, and recommended deferrals instead
3. Özil was fine with a deferral, even at a higher proportion than other players
4. Özil was open to a pay cut if the club could provide clarity on how the money would be used
5. Other players also were also reluctant to agree to a pay cutd ue to the lack of clarity, but most eventually agreed after Arteta urged them to do so
6. Somebody at the club leaked that Özil did not accept the pay cut
7. Özil was not the only player to refuse the pay cut, but his name was the only name leaked
8. Once the club cut 55 staff members, other plays became upset because they had understood that their pay reduction would go towards saving jobs, and feel that they were misled by the club
9. Not a single source, named or otherwise, has denied anything Özil has said. Say what you will about Özil, but he has never struck me as a liar.

Unless you believe Özil is straight up lying (not a single source, named or unnamed, has denied any of what he said), it's clear that the club were in the wrong here, first by pushing the players to accept the pay cut without providing an adequate level of transparency, and 2nd by leaking Özil's name, thereby justifying Özil's assertion that people are out to get him.

A top post that I don't think anyone can argue with. The other truth is that Özil isn't wanted as a player and on a high wage that the club would love to shift. Like Raul, he's done here imo.

 

[Manberg]

Let's look at the facts:
1. Arsenal are the only team in the league to implement a pay reduction for players
2. The players association advised that players not agree to pay cuts, and recommended deferrals instead
3. Özil was fine with a deferral, even at a higher proportion than other players
4. Özil was open to a pay cut if the club could provide clarity on how the money would be used
5. Other players also were also reluctant to agree to a pay cutd ue to the lack of clarity, but most eventually agreed after Arteta urged them to do so
6. Somebody at the club leaked that Özil did not accept the pay cut
7. Özil was not the only player to refuse the pay cut, but his name was the only name leaked
8. Once the club cut 55 staff members, other plays became upset because they had understood that their pay reduction would go towards saving jobs, and feel that they were misled by the club
9. Not a single source, named or otherwise, has denied anything Özil has said. Say what you will about Özil, but he has never struck me as a liar.

Unless you believe Özil is straight up lying (not a single source, named or unnamed, has denied any of what he said), it's clear that the club were in the wrong here, first by pushing the players to accept the pay cut without providing an adequate level of transparency, and 2nd by leaking Özil's name, thereby justifying Özil's assertion that people are out to get him.

Why is it a surprise that the board want him gone? So do many Arsenal fans, including me. The board had been trying to deliver on our demands to get him out.

 

[Macho]

The other truth is that Özil isn't wanted as a player and on a high wage that the club would love to shift. Like Raul, he's done here imo.

Some can’t accept this bit lol.

Özil is spot on in some instances though, but yeah let’s not hide from the truth here.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Some can’t accept this bit lol.

Özil is spot on in some instances though, but yeah let’s not hide from the truth here.

Then we got players like @GDeep™ out here wanting to portrait Özil as some sort of Kevin de Bruyne smh

 

[kash2]

Then we got players like @GDeep™ out here wanting to portrait Özil as some sort of Kevin de Bruyne smh

Just watched him a day ago vs Lyon ... KDB isnt all that. Bernardo and David Silva are a better comparison.

 

[kash2]

Arteta wants Özil in. He played him in each league game before the lockdown. Then Raul starts to **** around. Raul gets booted out and Özil interview comes out with perfect timing.

I dont know what kind of football fan doesnt want to see Özil, pepe and auba play together

 

[Manberg]

Arteta wants Özil in. He played him in each league game before the lockdown. Then Raul starts to **** around. Raul gets booted out and Özil interview comes out with perfect timing.

I dont know what kind of football fan doesnt want to see Özil, pepe and auba play together

Do you have any proof of that? For all we know it could be Arteta who dropped Özil from the squad due to footballing reasons. The interview will have done more harm than good for Özil in terms of getting back into the team.

 

[Finesse]

The state of chaos now vindicates my objectivity about the Özil saga. It is clear things have not been handled well at the club level. ( few key people making the biggest decisions) . That has a direct effect on the pitch and contract negotiations etc. We have worked with 3 managers since Wenger already. Within the period Gazidis , Sven and now Raul have departed. All for very obvious reasons. The team has been a shambles until Arteta. No one can stand out , and post Corona has been the basis for the heros in the team today. I hope Edu and Arteta can steady the ship and move us forward.

 

[kash2]

Arteta wants Özil in. He played him in each league game before the lockdown. Then Raul starts to **** around. Raul gets booted out and Özil interview comes out with perfect timing.

I dont know what kind of football fan doesnt want to see Özil, pepe and auba play together

Do you have any proof of that? For all we know it could be Arteta who dropped Özil from the squad due to footballing reasons. The interview will have done more harm than good for Özil in terms of getting back into the team.

Arteta wants Özil in. He played him in each league game before the lockdown. The interview was blessed by the management to pave the way for raul to feck off and for Özil to be reincluded.

Wallah you are not a football fan.

 

[Manberg]

Arteta wants Özil in. He played him in each league game before the lockdown. Then Raul starts to **** around. Raul gets booted out and Özil interview comes out with perfect timing.

I dont know what kind of football fan doesnt want to see Özil, pepe and auba play together

Arteta wants Özil in. He played him in each league game before the lockdown. The interview was blessed by the management to pave the way for raul to feck off and for Özil to be reincluded.

Wallah you are not a football fan.

Arteta switched formation after the break. Özil doesn’t suit the 3-4-3 he is not good enough defensively. Secondly, there were reports that Özil came back for the restart in poor fitness, further disappointing Arteta.

Wtf does wallah mean?

 

[Manberg]

Özil's had plenty of great games in a 3-4-3.

Under Emery? Maybe that’s why we were poor. One only needs to look at Özil’s performance in Baku he’s just not a good footballer in modern football.

 

[GDeep™]

Then we got players like @GDeep™ out here wanting to portrait Özil as some sort of Kevin de Bruyne smh

Özil takes a piss on De Bruyne, who’s only two years younger btw.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Özil takes a piss on De Bruyne, who’s only two years younger btw.

Haha, he was never close to being the player that Kevin is.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Özil takes a piss on De Bruyne, who’s only two years younger btw.

Almost three years, btw. Math much?

 

[Manberg]

Haha, he was never close to being the player that Kevin is.

Özil was never close to being the player Cazorla was either. Nor a certain #4 in the era before that.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Özil was never close to being the player Cazorla was either. Nor a certain #4 in the era before that.

Feel like the difference mainly between Kevin and Mesut is the mentality. No denying in Özils unreal talent, but when push comes to shove and it takes Özil to adapt to a game rather than the other way around he comes flat. Kevin always come through in some capacity.

 

[Garrincha]

Özil had a supporting role in the Alexis era.