I agree with the vision & signs of improvement but he is pretty much a head coach. We might be one of the hardest hit without match day revenue if this is the reality for 6/12/24 months.
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Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?
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grange
Losing my brain cells 🥸
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
What can you actually criticize this guy over? You lot moan more than porn stars. Give it a rest.
It’s not about going big though. It’s about being able to buy a couple of players or buy none. Arteta spoke about how Liverpool improved the spine of their team so he probably wants to buy a CB and CM, but that doesn’t mean he wants to spend £150m.
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
The way Kroenke has handled his investment with Arsenal has been absolute poverty - and I'm not talking on the pitch stuff, but as a business man.
He could've just decided to invest ONCE in more than a decade where players even cost relatively little in comparison and we'd have gone on to win a few titles.
Would've increased the worth of the club and everybody could see that the money in football was soaring up. Almost nobody made a real loss on a good player even when you payed 30% more because you sold him for double 4 years later, if you managed his contract well.
It's not as easy now, but we seem to have another coach that is capable of working beyond his means and if Kroenke doesn't want to see his investment fall into mediocrecy and ultimately see it lose worth massively, he better start spending the absolute minimum.
We ain't talking city-cash here.
Player:Saliba
But that Holding quote was in reference to John Stones who has shown he isn't a £55m player either. Holding cost £1.8m, £Stones £55m and both are probably worth about the same and I'd rather have Holding.
You said later you'd rather take a gamble on a kid but then are surprised Holding (still only 24) is inconsistent. And is he? When he's fit?
Posts all over the place.
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Lidl Tir Na Nog
the Basque Mourinho
scytheavatar
Established Member
There's only so much you have do with just ONCE investment in more than a decade....... you are vastly overestimating the willingness of clubs to sell and players to move at the time when their leverage is the lowest. And when we probably have no European football to offer the players.
Country: Scotland
Whilst I agree with the sentiments it's nothing more than a quote to fill papers. Dig a bit deeper and it's an empty quote. We dont need to just spend if we did what am about to write wouldnt be true.
EL result took us out of any CL contention via Europe. thats nothing to do with spend. Brighton and Leicester results killed us since the restart. Win those and we are level with Leicester and United. Beat Sp**s and we are 3 ahead with a game in hand.
But it goes back further than that. Everyone knew Emery was a dead duck. And we persisted with him. The points dropped then have come back to haunt us. Losing to Sheffield united and Leicester, drawing to Southampton, Wolves and Palace.
I dont think the way Arteta has framed it is right. Yes of course we need to spend but more importantly we need to sell the duds in the squad. It's those duds that cost us points. It's the spending in previous years that built an imbalanced squad.
Realistically we dont need to spend hundreds of millions. We just need a trimmed squad with a sprinkle of players in the right places. CM and CB are the priority. Then if Aubameyang and Lacazette leave a CF.
EL result took us out of any CL contention via Europe. thats nothing to do with spend. Brighton and Leicester results killed us since the restart. Win those and we are level with Leicester and United. Beat Sp**s and we are 3 ahead with a game in hand.
But it goes back further than that. Everyone knew Emery was a dead duck. And we persisted with him. The points dropped then have come back to haunt us. Losing to Sheffield united and Leicester, drawing to Southampton, Wolves and Palace.
I dont think the way Arteta has framed it is right. Yes of course we need to spend but more importantly we need to sell the duds in the squad. It's those duds that cost us points. It's the spending in previous years that built an imbalanced squad.
Realistically we dont need to spend hundreds of millions. We just need a trimmed squad with a sprinkle of players in the right places. CM and CB are the priority. Then if Aubameyang and Lacazette leave a CF.
Country: England
Good on him. The decline we’ve been in has picked up pace the last few years and we need heavy investment to change the momentum
HairSprayGooners
My brother posted it ⏩
This is THE time to go big. You have no restrictions on what you can do until next year. You go big now and make the gap a lot smaller.
TornadoTed
Established Member
I don't understand this criticism of Edu, he hasn't even had a proper window yet. He came in 3 weeks before the Summer window shut. He would have had pretty much zero influence on signings, all players would have been identified and scouted for months before. January barely counts as we could only bring in loans.
His job is to work with the manager to assess the squad, come up with a long term strategy for squad building, I doubt any DOF has much influence for the first 12 months. I will start to judge him in 12-18 months time, but not now.
truth_hurts
but Holding’s hair transplant was painless
5 or so games ago, Mikel looked a beaten man. I've been critical, but we're in an FA cup final and have only a silly red and gifts to Tottenham to thank for bot being in a top 4 race.
Next season will be interesting.
Next season will be interesting.
yybecause
Formerly known as ArsenaLover
My friend was a bit stunned once we did the comeback, after I told him it would happen of we switch to back 4.
I really liked that we started a game with 11 players that are good fit for both 3 man d and 4, and that allowed us to switch it during the game without waiting go for subs later in the game.
Balance is so important, and if you do it right tactically you always have a good chance
I really liked that we started a game with 11 players that are good fit for both 3 man d and 4, and that allowed us to switch it during the game without waiting go for subs later in the game.
Balance is so important, and if you do it right tactically you always have a good chance
As a fan - this is what you want to see. Love the desire, love the pressure. The tension with the board is palpable. He is obviously irked by the situation - why wouldn't he, coming from a place like Man City?
However, the finance person in me says it's absolutely crazy to start throwing money in this climate. We are talking about solvency here. Especially considering we have made a hugeee number of piss poor financial decisions over the last 10 years.
I guess the bottom line is - do we want to see a 10th place Arsenal or an Arsenal in administration? Just to be absolutely clear - I can't decide myself.
However, the finance person in me says it's absolutely crazy to start throwing money in this climate. We are talking about solvency here. Especially considering we have made a hugeee number of piss poor financial decisions over the last 10 years.
I guess the bottom line is - do we want to see a 10th place Arsenal or an Arsenal in administration? Just to be absolutely clear - I can't decide myself.
Country: England
I think the opposite, I feel like he’s on the verge of quitting myself.
He’s realised the squad is bad and he’s publicly begging for money. He’s acting like a guy with nothing to lose.
The squad may drop off after knowing that he clearly doesn’t believe in them.
It’s definitely gonna be interesting, I don’t know if it will be for the reasons you think though.
The squad aren’t going to stop believing in him because he says the team needs improving. The players will no that themselves. He hasn’t said he wants 11 new players.
Goonger
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I was coming on to post something similar. He worded it wrong last night when he said you need a bigger squad. You don't, especially if there's no Europe. We make more changes than Liverpool by far. You do need better players in the first XI though.
He's right, we do need to invest. But he also needs to be ruthless, and get rid of the bloat like you say. We need to be more streamlined, we have good youngsters to take up the squad positions now, let's not waste resources on higher paid players that actually offer us very little.
You don't have to necessarily go out and beat the Man Citys & Liverpool's of this world to get top 4. The best way to do it is to try and beat as much of the dross as you can. Beat the teams you should be beating on a more consistent basis. He's shown that he can get this bunch to be pretty consistent with that regard. With some more improvements, there's no reason why he can't challenge for Top 4 next season. If he really wants to emulate Liverpool, with our budget issues, don't focus on the Allison / Van Dyke signings, just focus on getting the recruitment for the right players that allows him to play more the type of game he wants, with the right mentality. That's what Liverpool did first, and they improved each season.
Maybe a couple of teams can make that jump in spending FFP was restricting but its really just because FFP doesn't work when large chunks of revenue not there.
Clubs are going to be struggling... the potential of no Europa combined with no matchday revenue for us is huge.
HairSprayGooners
My brother posted it ⏩
FFP is completely irrelevant until next year.
The point Mikel is trying to make is we could quite comfortably spend 100-200M this summer if the board give it to him. But its a risk because if we don't make CL next year then FFP could catch up with us and we'd have to make some serious cuts.
Arteta would have to know exactly what he needs and wants, which I'm sure he does.
Ceballinhos
Cheating on Santi
Let's be realistic for next season, we're probably not challenging for top 4. There is nothing in this team that is consistently performing. Our defense needs fixing. As much as I rate saliba he's just a 20 yrs old kid and I don't think he's gonna improve us enough to make us decent in the back. And then we have too many CB under contract to reastically think we will get another one. We have Luiz Mari Sokratis Mustafi Saliba Holding Chambers. Shkodran isn't going anywhere imo there are no buyers for him. Sokratis might go but we already have signed Mari... I don't see us signing another CB since we have too many.
In midfield it's a disaster. If ceballos leaves we would need 3 midfielders imo. Xhaka even though he's been decent under Arteta, he isn't starting in any top 6 team, let alone in the top 4. He's way too limited. He doesn't excel anywhere. Torreira isn't good enough. Willock same. Özil...
Attack is the only bright side, saka and Pepe have talent and room for improvement. The problem is we don't know if Aubameyang is staying and if he leaves there's no way we can replace his output.
Unless we get 4/5 very good players which would cost a lot, I don't see how we can close the gap.
And most of our dead wood will still be here next season. We might get decent fees from guendouzi and AMN. But that's about it.
In midfield it's a disaster. If ceballos leaves we would need 3 midfielders imo. Xhaka even though he's been decent under Arteta, he isn't starting in any top 6 team, let alone in the top 4. He's way too limited. He doesn't excel anywhere. Torreira isn't good enough. Willock same. Özil...
Attack is the only bright side, saka and Pepe have talent and room for improvement. The problem is we don't know if Aubameyang is staying and if he leaves there's no way we can replace his output.
Unless we get 4/5 very good players which would cost a lot, I don't see how we can close the gap.
And most of our dead wood will still be here next season. We might get decent fees from guendouzi and AMN. But that's about it.
