Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?

[Jack_the_boy]

If you look at our recent game against Palace we started very fast, but if we dont score that goal early on we completely lose confidence. And most of our current squad are confidence players.

Take Bellerin for example, you could see it in the final sort of 20 mins of the game. Once he loses confidence all he does is pass back, he never takes risks because he doesn't believe in his ability. He knows he's average technically, but with confidence he can actually be okay.

@Legend14

You’re missing the obvious. All 4 City goals came from set pieces

Yeah, our set pieces are not great.

 

[OSBK]

Willian was having a pretty good time till he joined us though. You can't really decline that much in a matter of months. Its the same with Auba, Laca and Pepe.

Was he though? He had his best ever season for chelsea last year and that wasnt even a patch on kdb, fernandes and players of that calibre. And we are paying him wages of kdb level.

Even when we try to defend him, is there really that much of a quality drop from chelsea to arsenal? Is he played out of position? Is the crowd on his back?

He is bang average and maybe not even that anymore. His agent has played a blinder.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

@Legend14

You’re missing the obvious. All 4 City goals came from set pieces

Yeah, our set pieces are not great.

Their first goal wasn't from a set piece. KDB's ball in was insane with the outside of his foot.

 

[Jack_the_boy]

Their first goal wasn't from a set piece. KDB's ball in was insane with the outside of his foot.

Came indirectly from a corner. Why else would Stones be in the box?


They are insane crosses though. We don’t have that quality. But hey, according to AM crossing is only for Stoke and the like

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Came indirectly from a corner. Why else would Stones be in the box?


They are insane crosses though. We don’t have that quality. But hey, according to AM crossing is only for Stoke and the like

Ahhh fair play! But yes KDB crosses are like a gift from God

 

[ArtetaOut]

Now that we're not in the Zone ****ing Kroenke will not consider sacking Cone Boy anytime soon. That's how nonchalent and unambitious he is. We're completely ****ed. Brace your arses for we're gonna be stuck near the relegation zone or midtable in the coming seasons. And ****ing Kroenke will be happy with it. We're ****ed like the other franchises that he has ruined. **** this ****. Ima take a break for the sake of my mental health. I've had ****ing enough.

 

[L3T5 PL4Y]

Well, Willian did. Even he admits it. Not sure how his lack of performance is accountable to anyone but himself.

My point is that the entire attack is suffering.

 

[L3T5 PL4Y]

Was he though? He had his best ever season for chelsea last year and that wasnt even a patch on kdb, fernandes and players of that calibre. And we are paying him wages of kdb level.

Even when we try to defend him, is there really that much of a quality drop from chelsea to arsenal? Is he played out of position? Is the crowd on his back?

He is bang average and maybe not even that anymore. His agent has played a blinder.

Well the thing is he is not the only attacker experiencing a fall. We shouldn't have signed him but what I'm saying is all of Auba, him, Laca and Pepe have enough quality to form an attack that at least looks good as well create more chances. Such a massive drop in all aspects from everyone is very alarming.

 

[EinmalImmerEwig]

Now that we're not in the Zone ****ing Kroenke will not consider sacking Cone Boy anytime soon. That's how nonchalent and unambitious he is. We're completely ****ed. Brace your arses for we're gonna be stuck near the relegation zone or midtable in the coming seasons. And ****ing Kroenke will be happy with it. We're ****ed like the other franchises that he has ruined. **** this ****. Ima take a break for the sake of my mental health. I've had ****ing enough.

Bye, shut the door on the way out

 

[The_Playmaker]

Did I say anything about Arteta other than we need to play football faster?

I said we should look at City and their game against CP and recognize the difference and what is needed to be better. You summed it up to having a billion dollars, which did nothing to address my original points of playing faster and having the right talent.

This is a major problem for me. We have so many players who take too many touches on the ball and that is something the manager should easily influence and take charge on.

David Luiz, Ceballos, Xhaka, Bellerin, Pepe.

They spend far too much time on the ball. Luiz particularly seems to want to control the game at a snail's pace and it doesn't help that him.and Xhaka want to be alpha males and have all the play go through them whether it is backwards or sideways.

 

[Moah]

Last season it we were pissing our pants scared of what to do if something happened to Auba, now its Tierney. Arteta system literally hangs on a single player and heavily reliant on our left wing. We will get nowhere playing the way we are now.

 

[Moah]

I see people blaming the subs for never making an impact. Well there is only much you can do if you don't change how you approach the game.

All our substitutes are like for like, the structure of play hardly changes with the subs. We just hope that the subs will bring an individual masterclass to save us, but even that is not possible in our rigid system that needs at least 40 back passes to make one forward.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

This is a major problem for me. We have so many players who take too many touches on the ball and that is something the manager should easily influence and take charge on.

David Luiz, Ceballos, Xhaka, Bellerin, Pepe.

They spend far too much time on the ball. Luiz particularly seems to want to control the game at a snail's pace and it doesn't help that him.and Xhaka want to be alpha males and have all the play go through them whether it is backwards or sideways.

No surprise that when ESR was introduced we looked far better going forward, someone who doesn't take too many touches and plays quick 1-2 football.

This is what I consistently say about the squad, you can't change everything in one summer to suit what you want, especially in a pandemic hit summer.

Arteta wasn't wrong when he said we need 5 or 6 to be a real top level football team.

 

[krackpot]

No surprise that when ESR was introduced we looked far better going forward, someone who doesn't take too many touches and plays quick 1-2 football.

This is what I consistently say about the squad, you can't change everything in one summer to suit what you want, especially in a pandemic hit summer.

Arteta wasn't wrong when he said we need 5 or 6 to be a real top level football team.

I checked his press conference when he first started, and he didn't mention anything about needing 6 players. If he needs 6 more players just to start playing, he's at the wrong club.

for comparison, Ole has also bought around the same number of players, obviously spending a but more on each.

 

[Rimaal]

I checked his press conference when he first started, and he didn't mention anything about needing 6 players. If he needs 6 more players just to start playing, he's at the wrong club.

for comparison, Ole has also bought around the same number of players, obviously spending a but more on each.

We've spent over 300 million since Wenger left. And what did it get us exactly?

 

[HairSprayGooners]

I checked his press conference when he first started, and he didn't mention anything about needing 6 players. If he needs 6 more players just to start playing, he's at the wrong club.

for comparison, Ole has also bought around the same number of players, obviously spending a but more on each.

Well he wouldn't mention it in his first week when he hasn't even seen the players train for 5 minutes. New managers don't come in and say they need half a new squad, would kill moral.

He said it a few weeks ago in a separate interview, he doesn't need 6 players to start playing. He needs 6 players to properly implement his style and be a title challenging force. Which is fair.

Ole has bought a CB for £80M, RB for £50M, LB for £20M, world class number 10 for £60M, a backup creative player in VDB for £40M and then he's also bolstered his attack with some big money youngsters and also Cavani. All in all he's spent around £300M.

Arteta thus far has bought a CB for £23M and a midfielder (who hasn't even played more than two full games) for £45M. We of course also signed Mari for £4M, so in terms of actual money going towards signings its peanuts compared to Ole.

We've spent over 300 million since Wenger left. And what did it get us exactly?

Doesn't mean we shouldn't allow Arteta to spend to build HIS squad though, we've wasted money, but keeping Arteta and allowing him to build we stop us wasting even more money.

 

[krackpot]

Well he wouldn't mention it in his first week when he hasn't even seen the players train for 5 minutes. New managers don't come in and say they need half a new squad, would kill moral.

It's lying then, or deception.

He said it a few weeks ago in a separate interview, he doesn't need 6 players to start playing. He needs 6 players to properly implement his style and be a title challenging force. Which is fair.

It's not fair.

6 players X 50M would be 300M. He's crazy for expecting 300M. We HAVE spent more than 300M over the past three seasons. As @Rimaal says, where did the money go?

Ole has bought a CB for £80M, RB for £50M, LB for £20M, world class number 10 for £60M, a backup creative player in VDB for £40M and then he's also bolstered his attack with some big money youngsters and also Cavani. All in all he's spent around £300M.

Arteta thus far has bought a CB for £23M and a midfielder (who hasn't even played more than two full games) for £45M. We of course also signed Mari for £4M, so in terms of actual money going towards signings its peanuts compared to Ole.

We've bought almost the same positions:

Maguire: Luiz, Mari, Saliba, Gabriel
VDB, Fernandes: Partey, Willian
AWB: Tierney, Cedric

Difference between them and us is about 100M, which is twoextra players. With our recruitment team, we would waste it anyway

 

[HairSprayGooners]

It's lying then, or deception.

It's not fair.

6 players X 50M would be 300M. He's crazy for expecting 300M. We HAVE spent more than 300M over the past three seasons. As @Rimaal says, where did the money go?

We've bought almost the same positions:

Maguire: Luiz, Mari, Saliba, Gabriel
VDB, Fernandes: Partey, Willian
AWB: Tierney, Cedric

Difference between them and us is about 100M, which is twoextra players. With our recruitment team, we would waste it anyway

Why do the players have to be £50M? That's a bit ridiculous, you have to be astute with your signings. Klopp signed 6 or 7 main players to build his title winning squad and then 3 or 4 cheaper players to help him in the short/medium term. Robertson, Salah, Mane and Gini cost like £90M between them.

Also its completely unfair to lump in signings like Torreira, Sokratis and such and suddenly say Arteta should be doing better, they aren't his players, he needs HIS signings. Not previous regimes signings who aren't working.

We've not spent money on a starting right back, we've not spent money on a number 10, we've not spent any money on an attacker/winger under Arteta.

The only position we've done very well in so far in terms of buys is CB, that's the only comparison you can make. The difference isn't 100m at all, silly comment. In that time we've had 2 different managers, once again Arteta needs his own players. After this summer we can fairly compare United/Arsenal/Ole/Arteta's signings, both would've made around 6 in the same time period.

 

[krackpot]

Why do the players have to be £50M? That's a bit ridiculous, you have to be astute with your signings. Klopp signed 6 or 7 main players to build his title winning squad and then 3 or 4 cheaper players to help him in the short/medium term. Robertson, Salah, Mane and Gini cost like £90M between them.

Also its completely unfair to lump in signings like Torreira, Sokratis and such and suddenly say Arteta should be doing better, they aren't his players, he needs HIS signings. Not previous regimes signings who aren't working.

We've not spent money on a starting right back, we've not spent money on a number 10, we've not spent any money on an attacker/winger under Arteta.

The only position we've done very well in so far in terms of buys is CB, that's the only comparison you can make. The difference isn't 100m at all, silly comment. In that time we've had 2 different managers, once again Arteta needs his own players. After this summer we can fairly compare United/Arsenal/Ole/Arteta's signings, both would've made around 6 in the same time period.

Why is it silly? the difference is 100M. They are still playing for the same club(s).

Not spending money on a RB is Arteta's decision.

AMN was supposedly a CM and he's barely played. Arteta's decision

Cedric....Arteta's decision

Saliba didn't get one game. Arteta's decision.

We bought a #10, Willian. Arteta's decision.

We didnt put Özil in the squad. Arteta's decision.

The winger/attacker situation was known to him. It was gonna be Pepe/Saka/Nelson. He's tried to kick out Nelson and Pepe multiple times.

The only really bad apple he got was Pepe, and Pepe was still one of our best players last season.

How many of his own players would he want before he will start accepting that it is his tactics too that need to change?

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Why is it silly? the difference is 100M. They are still playing for the same club(s).

Not spending money on a RB is Arteta's decision.

AMN was supposedly a CM and he's barely played. Arteta's decision

Cedric....Arteta's decision

Saliba didn't get one game. Arteta's decision.

We bought a #10, Willian. Arteta's decision.

We didnt put Özil in the squad. Arteta's decision.

The winger/attacker situation was known to him. It was gonna be Pepe/Saka/Nelson. He's tried to kick out Nelson and Pepe multiple times.

The only really bad apple he got was Pepe, and Pepe was still one of our best players last season.

How many of his own players would he want before he will start accepting that it is his tactics too that need to change?

Why should he change his tactics for **** players who don't fit what he wants to do? Why the hell should he play Özil, a man who really doesn't fit what he wants to do, just because he's here?

Not spending money on a right back is because it wasn't the biggest priority, once again you can't do everything in one window. The priorities for us for the starting 11 were CB, CM, CM, AM, more creativity in the attack, and then you start looking at the right back area once you've sorted those positions because we still had Bellerin, AMN and Cedric here. We need an upgrade in quality not quantity.

Cedric was signed because the club believed AMN would be gone, Cedric is a BACKUP RIGHT BACK, signed for NOTHING. Do you understand that? He isn't part of the 6 players needed, because they're 6 starting players.

Saliba didn't get one game because he wasn't ready, and the player himself admitted that he wasn't physically ready for the premier league.

Willian has never been a number 10 and never will be, he's a winger and he was signed because he was free and because he knows the league, he's a short term signing to help us in the short term, a good squad option but its currently looking a poor signing even on a free.

Name one successful manager in the premier league in recent years who hasn't purchased his own players? You're basically saying Ole has an £80M Pogba so he shouldn't sign his own players in that position because Pogba cost the club 80M at a completely different time under a completely different manager, ridiculous opinion honestly.

You're being very silly. United spent £800M between Fergie leaving and Ole joining, does that mean he should've been playing for the title in his first season because of that 800M spent in previous regimes? Think about what you're saying.