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Mikel Arteta: Taking The Mik

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Dec 20, 2019.

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Do you believe Arteta will turn it around?

  1. Yes, I still have 100% faith in him

    11.5%
  2. Yes, but my confidence in him has decreased this season

    24.4%
  3. No, he should go imminently

    39.1%
  4. No, but he should stay on until his position becomes untenable

    16.0%
  5. Give him the rest of the season no matter what

    9.0%
  1. Makavelii

    Makavelii Well-Known Member

    Wut? Özil and Giroud were obviously technically good.
     
  2. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    Firmino, Benzema, Van Persie, Mbappe, Neymar, Son, Suarez, Tevez, Salah.......
    Giroud was not 1% as skillful as them.

    Iniesta, Modric, Silva, Isco, Kaka, KDB, Coutinho, Nasri, Cazorla, Eriksen......
    Özil was not participating enough in the general play, will not help us in possession. His ball control in crowded area/dribbling skills was not 1% as good. Özil keeps things simple and efficient, he won’t make entertaining and complicated combination with teammate to confuse the opponent.

    Can you see the difference? Between Giroud/Özil and the players I have listed above?
    @Makavelii
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2020
  3. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Giroud has had 99 appearances for France and scored 90 goals, Benzema 81 appearances, 27 goals.

    Considering Giroud has 1% the skill of Benzema, those stats take some explaining :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  4. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    What are you on about? I didn’t say benzema is better at scoring, I said he is more skillful.


    @Makingtrax
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2020
  5. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    The only way Giroud has 90 goals for France, is if you add 50 goals to his actual total.
     
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  6. Furious

    Furious Emery Gone, Telly Back On

    Don't bother, the guy is hellbent about sexy beautiful skills. Goals don't matter.
     
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  7. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    If you have players with better football iq/game reading/skills/ball control/combination play, like Benzema/Firmino/Van Persie/Suarez/Iniesta/KDB/Silva....

    Your team will have more possession, create more chance, and score more goals. Because these players have contributed a hell lot in the general play.

    (I don’t care about goals??)

    If you have a front line of owen, aubameyang, inzaghi, and a midfield of lampard, gerrard and ramsey, your team will lost 10-0 every game. Because these players contributed nothing in the general play. Your strikers needed other players to feed them, waiting to score goals rather than contributing to the attacking play. And your midfielders are not “play creators”/“play contributors” too. They go for goals themselves.

    Your team will get outnumbered and lost possession. Your team will create less chance and score less goals (despite having all the goal scorers/goal scoring midfielders in your team). Because they are such a fxxking liability in the general play.

    @Furious @Makingtrax
    @Makavelii
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2020
  8. Furious

    Furious Emery Gone, Telly Back On

    Everybody knows that ffs.

    You're so wrapped up and one-sided your repeated nonsense is painful to read. Luckily football is more complex than that.
     
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  9. Sammy1887

    Sammy1887 New Year, Same Hate For Reed

    40 goals******
     
  10. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Yeah 40 goals, beginning to think I need glasses, can't even read Wikipaedia anymore ffs. :lol:
     
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  11. Sammy1887

    Sammy1887 New Year, Same Hate For Reed

    More than that what made you think Giroud would score 90 goals in 99 games for France. Man went goalless the entire World Cup. :lol:
     
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  12. Trofton

    Trofton Well-Known Member

    What a load of bollocks look at any heat map of Özil he never crossed the half way line

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-mesut-Özil-heat-map-unai-emery-to-blame/amp/

    he wasn’t physical he didn’t track back even on corners he would just stand in between half way line and The box. Talking ****e saying he tracked back :confused:
     
  13. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    My manic pup was chewing my feet at the time, typing through the pain bro. :lol:
     
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  14. AbouCuéllar

    AbouCuéllar Well-Known Member

    What? Özil has been past it for a while I agree but Özil in his prime is absolutely not the player you describe, the bolded you've said about one of the most creative players of our era, perhaps the most. Very weird. Perhaps you never watched him for Madrid. Or Özil until 2016 or so.

    Also Ramsey really doesn't belong on that list, even if he is not the most aesthetically pleasing to watch. Seems that people forget quickly that Ramsey was our best player in his last few years at the club.
     
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  15. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

  16. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    That's not the only way to score goals, another way to score goals is to have players in your team who can run a lot. If you can make more runs you can exhaust your opponent's defenders and force them into making mistakes. You can also win the ball back and frustrate your opponent's attacks. And modern football has evolved to the stage where runners have become more important than creative players.
     
  17. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    Perfect example was last evening. Although Leicester do have some really good passers of the ball too, threading passes into the channels. You don't need Xavi levels of accuracy as there is more space to work with. But if you're competent and you can spot the runs quickly (helps if you know which runs the forwards are gonna make by working at it in training) you're golden.
     
  18. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    Not sure if the next stage of our game is playing 8 CB's and Xhaka in front of them
     
  19. Gervais

    Gervais Well-Known Member

    ****e selection tonight pal
     
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  20. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    I can’t fault the team selection or the formation. If we played 4 at the back like the armchair experts here want we’d have got battered 5-1. Instead, we would have drew had Lacazette took his chance.
     

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