Next Season's Centerbacks

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Aevi, Jun 23, 2020.

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Who would you rather keep?

  1. Sokratis

    11.3%
  2. Mustafi

    9.4%
  3. Chambers

    56.6%
  4. Holding

    22.6%
  1. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz No Longer Phallus Obsessed

    We need a big name CB this window. Saliba alone just wont do. (even if i personally believe he will be maybe even the best CB in the world in a few years). It is not fair to him to throw him out in the deep end with a bunch of muppets
     
  2. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz No Longer Phallus Obsessed

    If we dont get another good/great CB this window, i fear Saliba wants to jump ship next season when R. Madrid comes knocking
     
  3. Mraven

    Mraven Well-Known Member

    I know many are blinded by hate, but Mustafi is by far our best CB. Selling him doesn’t make any sense in our situation
     
  4. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    Clear the decks of them all. Except Luiz cause you know we just extended his contract after he shafted us.
     
  5. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Does anyone else think that none of this is real (it can't be surely, too many things have gone wrong for it to be real) and we are all hooked up to Matrix-like dream machines, controlled by a master machine force that has taken over earth.

    And for some reason the machines cities are super powered by the depression of Arsenal fans specifically...like in Monsters Inc, were they find out that laughter is better than screams?

    This insane theory would at least make the decisions the board are making, make sense to us...
     
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  6. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Established Member

    If Ornstein is to be believed (who knows) then the club want to sign another CB this summer. But firstly, the club has very little money, so it's not gonna be a big name. Secondly it totally depends if they are able to sell/loan out Mustafi, Sokratis, Holding and Mavropanos.

    I don't see how they can make any deal for a new CB without having freed up space first, cos we currently have 8 CB's on the books.
     
  7. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    That won't make us top 4 club if mustafi your best CB.
     
  8. For me the priority is the midfield. For that reason, i'm glad we've kept Luiz for 1 more year. Tbh, at this point, unless we get a decent offer, i'd even keep Mustafi.

    Keep -Luiz, Saliba, Mustafi, Mari

    Sell - Sokratis, Holding, Chambers, Mavrapanos.

    If we can sign another CB, great, but i'd like us to put most of our funds into fixing the midfield, as this will play a big part in fixing both our defensive and attacking issues.
     
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  9. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    What an absolute joke of a comment. Think Chambers and Holding made fewer mistakes in their careers than Luiz and Mustafi in a single season. Keep them and cry next year after every game, that's smart
     
  10. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    Tbf they probably have a higher value in the market.
     
  11. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    If you sell them to finance salaries of Özil, Luiz and Mustafi, that doesn't make much sense either
     
  12. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    A reasonable fee for Chambers and Holding, at least pre Corona, would be around 20m each.

    I highly doubt Mustafi and Luiz are bringing that much home annually.
     
  13. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    OK, I still struggle to get what you want there. Let's say you sell Chambers, half of that money goes to finance salaries for Luiz and Mustafi. After a year, you lose Luiz and Mustafi on free, you've sold Chambers and you are left with 10m on the bank account. You then have a value of 10m on your account without players. How exactly did you increase the value of your squad by doing that?

    The other option, get rid of the bums and keep Chambers, after a year you will still have a player that will have a long term value of 20+m without spending any additional money on Luiz/Mustafi.

    What you're describing is the exact same thing that the board did. Reducing the overall value of the squad year after year and wonder after that how you ended up with 240m wage budget and with players that can't beat Brighton, with nothing to sell to get better players.
     
  14. Selling two players who barely play to fund moves for players who can make the starting 11, thats the thought process here.

    And if you think these two are on Luiz and Mustafis level, you don't know football.
     
  15. GunnerShy

    GunnerShy Well-Known Member

    For those taking about selling Chambers. He's still recovering from an ACL. No club is buying him whilst he recovers from an ACL. Forget it.

    Sokratis, Mavraponas, Holding - they're the most likely to go.

    We need to be careful with Saliba. Nothing suggests we will get more than 20 league games out of him yet. Been injury interrupted.

    It's probably a rotation of him with Mustafi, Mari, Chambers (once fit), Luiz. Not inspiring but I still believe the much bigger need is in Midfield!
     
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  16. Exactly. This guy gets it.
     
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  17. GoonerJay24

    GoonerJay24 Well-Known Member

    Sign Dunk and Diassi
     
  18. Shalmaneser V

    Shalmaneser V Well-Known Member

    I’d keep one of the English guys.

    Sokratis is old and past it and Mustafi is always an accident waiting to happen.
     
  19. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    I don't think they are on their level, I think both are better, but that's not much of a task these days. If they didn't end up with long term injuries, Mustafi would still be out of the matchday squad like he was at the time, and Luiz would be out of the squad after his first 5 game changing mistakes.
     
  20. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    Özil + Torreira is the glaringly obvious pairing for next season. Next topic please.
     

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