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Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by OnlyOne, Sep 19, 2019.

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  1. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    Much better when Willock and Torreira came on. Apparently some here are convinced Torreira is complete trash .... can’t see that at all myself?

    It seems Özil is finished at AFC, well it’s seemed that way for a while reading between the lines but the point is being hammered home and the remaining few people who were unclear about the situation are now beginning to understand. I guess he is happy just to collect his cash, and why not? Playing isn’t everything I guess. Even Miki who was slightly ahead in the pecking order, has bounced to seek regular game time.
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  2. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Sad to see my 2010 WC hero turn into an absolute leach...
  3. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Doubt we can get Allegri, but if we are able we should absolutely switch.
  4. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    He was my ****ing fantasy football captain so I was fuming.:lol:
  5. Jackie_Treehorn

    Jackie_Treehorn Well-Known Member

    He might’ve felt bad he took the goal on Thursday when he saw Pepe ready to tap in to his right just after he scored. Looked at Pepe sheepishly as he celebrated. I’m glad he gave Pepe the penalty. Team player. Easily our best right now.
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  6. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    Torreira looks better, to me, having been further forward. We don't need out and out defensive midfielders but players that are mobile.
  7. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    His advanced role suit him but that leave us with no natural DM
  8. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    But Torreira has been garbage in that position. Get Willock in there and our pressing will be 10 times better and the result will be what we saw in the last 20 minutes today. We don't need an out and out dm.
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  9. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Nonsense. MotM against Ronaldo and Portugal in the World Cup and played as a DM consistently during our 20 game unbeaten run in the first half of last season.

    People really have short memories:

    It was when we switched to a back 3 (first time away at Bournemouth), that his form dipped - unsurprisingly so with the wing backs leaving so much more space and our midfield getting more stretched.

    The 5-1 defeat at Anfield was his first bad game in an Arsenal shirt, and it seems that was enough for Emery to restrict his involvement. Red card at Sp**s was another low point, and it was clear then he was struggling to regain his confidence.

    His capability to play as a DM though is not in question. That's what made his career at the highest level.
  10. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    I don't care what he done during the world cup and even during the unbeaten run, we were crap defensively.

    I am more willing to give him a second chance as it's pretty damned obvious who the real problem is.
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  11. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Well thank God for that :Celebration:
  12. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    All right, i won't. For a defensive midfielder, we sure gave up a lot of chances with him there.
  13. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    I had to leave when we went 1-2 down as I had plans and I didn't care anymore.

    Now I've seen the result. Emery masterclass. Champions of Europe. Bring on OT. Xhaka the greatest player to put on the Arsenal shirt.
  14. James Bond

    James Bond Moderation Consultant

    That and PEA also kind of owed Pepe a goal for not squaring it to him for the tap in vs Frankfurt. :lol:
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  15. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    That's not because he was "garbage in that position" as you put it.

    Here he features in standout PL players 2018/19 (October 2018): https://www.premierleague.com/news/878408

    Halfway through last season he was being mooted for player of the year, and being called things like the "white Kante" because of his defensive tenacity.

    All of a sudden he can't play as a DM?

    Like I said, the second half of the season was very different to the first for various reasons. None had anything to do with him being in the wrong position.
  16. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

    It seems we need some good kick up the ass to start perform. In this case it was the sending off and the secondVilla goal. We played much better with 10 men.
  17. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Men's Rights Activist

    We're first on MOTD:eek:
  18. Pepes blue pill

    Pepes blue pill Well-Known Member

    Think that was a pen at the end, makes it all the more glorious, rival fans be even more fuming :lol:
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  19. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    Just watched MOTD, yes looks like Villa were denied a very strong pen shout at the end. Sokratis is indeed a liability.

    On a more interesting note, they mentioned the decision to sub Xhaka was roundly applauded by the home crowd.
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  20. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    I agree, he was so good for us up until December, so was Xhaka to to an extent. He didn't just lose that ability, our midfield has been an absolute disaster since that defensive crisis led to a reshuffle in shape and formation.

    Torreira hasn't been given a chance there since, while Xhaka gets to play every game looking like a fool. With Torreira we can play a proper dynamic and aggressive 433. We can have him in the middle, with two technicians ready to help him going forward and also cover him at times.

    Ever since January last season our defence has just been getting ran at non stop from gaps in our midfield... I don't get it. Taking out Torreira didnt change anything so now it’s time to drop Xhaka
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