PL: Arsenal vs Crystal Palace | April 21st | KO: 16:00 BST

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by OnlyOne, Apr 18, 2019.

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Match Prediction

Poll closed Apr 21, 2019.
  1. Arsenal Win

    83.3%
  2. Draw

    5.6%
  3. Crystal Palace Win

    11.1%
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  1. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    How long are people going to blame Wenger? Considering Emery has signed a new spine, has greatly benefited off players like Ramsey, Kos, Özil, Xhaka, Auba, Laca etc.

    I was told a new manager would get more out of these players than Wenger could, and how a new manager could easily structure a new defence with a working system unlike Wenger etc, now that hasn’t happened, it’s because Wenger left behind Mustafi ffs.

    Today the Emery team selection killed us, there were better options on the bench.
     
  2. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    We started with 8 defenders today ffs. Still conceded 3.

    Don’t blame Wenger for that, especially if I have never seen you credit him for any good run we’ve had this season.
     
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  3. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Why would I mention Wenger when we win? You only mention Emery when we lose, so what's the difference? Anyway, me mentioning Wenger today is merely in response to people who want to slaughter Emery for who he fielded. He can only select from the gash he has at his disposal. And you think Monreal's dogsh!t anyway.
     
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  4. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    You don’t even rate Kos, Auba or Laca :lol:
     
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  5. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    :lol: Suggest you go and read the first few pages of the Mustafi thread to see how well regarded he was amongst the ‘bums on the internet’.

    Here’s one
    Football fans are just serial hindsight posters. ‘Everybody knew he was sh!te except the manager’, ‘Every knew he was going to get injured, the manager should have bought a decent back up’.

    Nothing changes.
     
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  6. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Wow, you got me there... Picked up on me giving him a bit of credit when it was due, even though it was from a game I missed 'large chunks' of?

    Well done sherlock :rofl:
     
  7. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    He thinks they're all sh!t, on top of the ones that he also thinks are all sh!t.
     
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  8. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Rate all three. Just think Kos is in decline even though he’s had a resurgence in recent months, while Auba and Laca I don’t rate as world class, but more than good enough for an Arsenal chasing top 4.
     
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  9. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    I constantly defend Emery on here, I’m backing him for next season too. It’s only you and your two bum chums who constantly bring up Wenger anytime things go pear shaped for Emery.

    Again today, Emery selected a team despite having better options on the bench. You can’t defend that.
     
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  10. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Lets's get one thing straight for the record.

    If Emery gets 4th place or wins the EL, it will be in spite of Wengers crap management that saw us drop out of the top four. Make no mistake.

    That wont sit well with those who refuse to acknowledge that Wenger undone god knows how many years of good work in the last two of his tenure, because that means Emery has a license to do as he wishes for at least a couple of seasons without blame, which must be like having a smelly sock stuffed in your mouths.
     
  11. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    You're trying to have it both ways like a lot on here. The backstabbers are evolving like MRSA on dirty cack stained towel in a filthy hospital.
     
  12. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    If Emery gets 4th place and wins the odd cup he’ll just be doing what Wenger did for 20 years. Which is very good on our spend.

    But let’s not pretend it’s progress, however much you try and dress it up.
     
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  13. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    Urgh why is Wenger even being discussed right now for god's sake. He did the best he can, he made some mistakes toward the end of his career here as well as some success (thankfully).

    Emery is profiting off some off the players Wenger managed to attract as well as suffering with idiots like Mustafi, El Neny and Jenko its the way the cookie crumbles in the football business, wake up. (you know, you tend to adopt the entire squad from your previous manager?? its then your job to manage these guys until you can get rid of the crap ones)

    Emery has admittedly made some questionable choices but dont get it twisted we have overperformed and we are still in the race for a trophy. The weird selections have "I'm not happy with this squad and need to chop and change next summer" all over it... have you not realised? The guy has managed to keep is up there with an extremely poorly balanced side and a defence which until recently was torn by injuries most of the season.

    If he continues to make questionable decisions after the summer and our results suffer because of it then sure go ahead and start to complain then, but right now you dont have much of a leg to stand on.
     
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  14. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    One thing I hope we can all agree on: No Elneny

    If we suffer from injuries then gamble with Willock or Iwobi in midfield i dont care, seriously.
     
  15. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    Its becoming much more difficult to get into the top4 man cmon... Wenger suffered from this towards the end of his career here. There used to 3-4 good sides and now there's 6. The amount of competition for top4 has almost doubled and sides like City are becoming unreachable depth and quality wise.
     
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  16. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    Still recovering. This was never going to be easy because of the timing of the game and when we went behind I thought it was curtains.

    What was despairing was how having come out with more aggression in the second half, scored a great goal and taken control of the game we were undone by one piece of abysmal defending (if you can call it that) by Mustafi. I've often cut some slack for him but he has to go, we cannot afford to have him at centre-back on yesterday's performance alone.

    Talk about wasted opportunities. 4th was almost in the bag, 3rd a possibility. This result makes 6th a possibility and probably means we need a win at Wolves to stay on track. Not confident.
     
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  17. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    We are better than last season but that doesnt mean we arent being held back by decisions made in the past.

    This season we are once again in the EL semi final, weve got past Napoli who had a few people in a panic. Add into that we are sitting 4th with four games to go. Last season we were out of that race long before this point. Weve a better away record than we had last season also.

    So its clear weve made progress. Maybe not as much as some would like or assumed would be made with Wenger leaving. At the same time it certainly hasnt been the doomsday that many predicated post Wenger with the whole be careful what you wish for brigade.

    Things have improved and continue to improve. Under performing players are playing better but they are still not good enough long term. Hopefully this up and coming window gives us a great opportunity to rebuild the team and move people on.
     
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  18. Let's play Aubamawang

    Let's play Aubamawang Well-Known Member

    Let us also not forget Wenger's questionable European record. Two finals in all that time, really fluffed the Galatasary one. And the rest of the time struggled to get past last 16, let alone quarters and semis.
     
  19. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member

    I never said he could win the title with these players. I said I don't trust him to build a title winning squad as he is too pragmatic.

    He is a good manager but that is as far as it goes. How can you watch the pathetic performance vs Everton and put out the same midfield. Elneny gave us literally nothing. There is no point protecting the back line and being conservative.

    Why not blood Willock and play him next to Guendouzi? He should have moved ahead of Elneny by now in the pecking order and has contributed more than Elneny already this season.
     
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  20. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry 24/7

    Think Willock is injured.
     
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