MancunianGunner
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if we could only be allowed to play with an extra player, i bet the opposition would be damn scared to play against a team with 12 players. lol
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PL: Manchester City vs Arsenal | 26/08/06
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drthorne1
Active Member
americanarf said:
What the Bloddy hell is wrong some of the people posting on here, Henry and his So called captaincy got us to the bloddy CL final last year and now becuase we have lost 1 GAME yes 1 people think he should no longer be captiain.
I am totaly amazed with some of these comments and not just about henry but also about AW and other member's of our team. The problem is that us as Arsenal fans have been spoilet over the last 7 years or so and just becuase we have not made the best of starts people are jumping to some of the most stupid ideas i have ever heard... JESUS
I bet if we win against boro and get something out of the man united game then the same people will be saying how great everything is again....
thierryunreal
Active Member
drthorne1 said:
exactly if we muster together and beat 'boro and manure, people will say we're great. but for the time you can't just question everything. At least thierry was bold and courageous to come and speak for the lads although he didn't blame theirs or his style of play (which i wouldn't expect him to do anyway). IMO he's a captain who inpires his team through strenght and pace and flair, but ATM its difficult cos he needs to find an extra gear as he's off the pace and he's struggling himself.
londoncalling
New Member
take a chill pill - it's early days.
virna lisi
Member
nah..i can understand the frustration..
last year we scraped our ass getting into the champions league for THIS year..we don't wanna go through that again..
these games against the likes of villa and man city are points we're gonna wish we had back.
take a shot fellas. we need greedy players..
last year we scraped our ass getting into the champions league for THIS year..we don't wanna go through that again..
these games against the likes of villa and man city are points we're gonna wish we had back.
take a shot fellas. we need greedy players..
Wolfman
New Member
Well my 2 cents - the only thing I said while watching the game that wasn't an expletive was "TAKE THE <expletive deleted> SHOT!!!
arsefanfan
Active Member
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 47,00.html
food for thought. On Saturday we only had three clear-cut chances, the article says.
food for thought. On Saturday we only had three clear-cut chances, the article says.
thierryunreal
Active Member
thats bullshit we had more than that
2 thierry in 1st
RVP
Rosicky
then 100000000 "shoot don't pass chances"
2 thierry in 1st
RVP
Rosicky
then 100000000 "shoot don't pass chances"
RC8
Established Member
arsefanfan said:
That's not true:
1-Henry one on one against the keeper,wide
2-Henry one on one against the keeper, stopped
3-RvP one on one against the keeper, wide
4-RvP post
5-Rosicky drifts inside the box, but decides to pass
6-Hleb drifts inside the box, but decides to pass
7-Hit the crossbar from a corner
All of those could have been goals, I don't care what a reporter says.
virna lisi
Member
thierryunreal said:
right.
arsefanfan
Active Member
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?this ... e+clinical
Wenger's comments. To rephrase it in a certain way, our style of play, which he wants to push through, requires everyone to be sharp, or there will be too many passes and not many chances. In this sense, the Times article has a valid point that we will not be able to "grind out" results like Chelski and Pool as we don't want to win ugly. My complaint is, how sharp should the players be? Throughout the season?
Wenger's comments. To rephrase it in a certain way, our style of play, which he wants to push through, requires everyone to be sharp, or there will be too many passes and not many chances. In this sense, the Times article has a valid point that we will not be able to "grind out" results like Chelski and Pool as we don't want to win ugly. My complaint is, how sharp should the players be? Throughout the season?
_scorpion_
Established Member
Anyone who watched us in the unbeaten season would have seen many matches where we played like crap but STILL got the result.
The team clearly lacks directness and a fit Henry.
Someone brought up an interesting point the other day - are Henry's new boots affecting him? I don't know. I know he isnt match fit so it is hard to make assmptions just yet.
I thought this was a match where Wallcot should have started and Cesc rested.
Rocisky should have played from the middle (operating in Cecs role) and the onus should have been on directness.
We overplayed way too many times in the last 3 games. Quite clearly, we have had enough chances to win 10 matches....but so far only 3 goals (2 in the CL).
I just hope that the issue of being more direct is brought up during the break at training.
On the good side, Wallcot looks promising! Gilberto played extremely well and Rocisky looks like a more direct version of Hleb who is not afraid to shoot.
I also think RVP has learnt a lot about being more of a team player and i'd like to see that continue. In saying that, he must never lose the thing that makes him special and should chance himself at times.
On the down side Hoyte does not look good at LB. It is not the lads fault for being picked , but he was dire. If we were going to experiment with LB's , why not Flamini? In any case, more directness please in our next match (and some good news this week regarding transfers) should do the trick.
The team clearly lacks directness and a fit Henry.
Someone brought up an interesting point the other day - are Henry's new boots affecting him? I don't know. I know he isnt match fit so it is hard to make assmptions just yet.
I thought this was a match where Wallcot should have started and Cesc rested.
Rocisky should have played from the middle (operating in Cecs role) and the onus should have been on directness.
We overplayed way too many times in the last 3 games. Quite clearly, we have had enough chances to win 10 matches....but so far only 3 goals (2 in the CL).
I just hope that the issue of being more direct is brought up during the break at training.
On the good side, Wallcot looks promising! Gilberto played extremely well and Rocisky looks like a more direct version of Hleb who is not afraid to shoot.
I also think RVP has learnt a lot about being more of a team player and i'd like to see that continue. In saying that, he must never lose the thing that makes him special and should chance himself at times.
On the down side Hoyte does not look good at LB. It is not the lads fault for being picked , but he was dire. If we were going to experiment with LB's , why not Flamini? In any case, more directness please in our next match (and some good news this week regarding transfers) should do the trick.
shaz
Active Member
disgraceful.
RC8
Established Member
shaz said:
What is it that you find disgraceful?
hujja
Established Member
RC8 said:
Yes, please enlighten us shaz.
the dawn raids
Established Member
_scorpion_ said:
that sums it up really. this team is playing well and isnt far away from being top notch. a little added depth and more clinical in front of the goal and watch how quickly everyone is back on wengers knob again.
Country: Australia
the dawn raids said:
So true.
Kenyonhater
Well-Known Member
I know the link has been posted but these points from that article are very well made.
The Times August 28, 2006
Arsenal's style lacks substance
By Oliver Kay
Manchester City 1 Arsenal 0
ONE OF THESE DAYS, ARSENAL WILL score a goal so stupendous in its inception, so stunning in its execution, that the rest of the football world will bow down in awe before them. Until that day, their pursuit of aesthetic perfection, combined with Arsène Wenger’s preference for youth over experience and for brains to the exclusion of brawn, promises to stand between them and what secondary ambitions they may have.
Remember the Arsenal “Invincibles” who went a league campaign unbeaten in 2003-04? These days they are happy to be the Indulgents, flicking the ball nonchalantly between themselves on the edge of the penalty area like some overtalented five-a-side team who believe that pretty goals count double.
It is not a new criticism — even the Invincibles had their moments of indulgence — but Arsenal’s teams over the past decade have always possessed a physical and mental fortitude that meant they could occasionally win ugly. This lot, apparently, are not built for that.
Criticising Wenger’s judgment can feel like heresy, particularly after his young aesthetes came so close to lifting the European Cup last season, but defeats such as this, by a technically inferior but far more combative Manchester City team, raise questions that have become all too familiar over the past year or so.
Can a manager legitimately cite youth, inexperience and fragility for his side’s failings when those shortcomings are the result of a strategy that was designed with just such a team in mind? Can he continually replace experience with youth — laudable as that may be in some respects — and expect a team to play with the consistency of champions?
Usually they will look to Thierry Henry, but when he is not in the mood — and, for all his brilliance, he continues to blow hot and cold — where are the players who will help to grind out results, as Chelsea and Liverpool do on a regular basis and Manchester United did away to Watford at the weekend?
Weaver was quick to play down his contribution by pointing out that he “didn’t have too much to do”. Bearing in mind the number of times Arsenal seemed to have carved the City defence wide open, that, however unintended, was quite an indictment.
The Times August 28, 2006
Arsenal's style lacks substance
By Oliver Kay
Manchester City 1 Arsenal 0
ONE OF THESE DAYS, ARSENAL WILL score a goal so stupendous in its inception, so stunning in its execution, that the rest of the football world will bow down in awe before them. Until that day, their pursuit of aesthetic perfection, combined with Arsène Wenger’s preference for youth over experience and for brains to the exclusion of brawn, promises to stand between them and what secondary ambitions they may have.
Remember the Arsenal “Invincibles” who went a league campaign unbeaten in 2003-04? These days they are happy to be the Indulgents, flicking the ball nonchalantly between themselves on the edge of the penalty area like some overtalented five-a-side team who believe that pretty goals count double.
It is not a new criticism — even the Invincibles had their moments of indulgence — but Arsenal’s teams over the past decade have always possessed a physical and mental fortitude that meant they could occasionally win ugly. This lot, apparently, are not built for that.
Criticising Wenger’s judgment can feel like heresy, particularly after his young aesthetes came so close to lifting the European Cup last season, but defeats such as this, by a technically inferior but far more combative Manchester City team, raise questions that have become all too familiar over the past year or so.
Can a manager legitimately cite youth, inexperience and fragility for his side’s failings when those shortcomings are the result of a strategy that was designed with just such a team in mind? Can he continually replace experience with youth — laudable as that may be in some respects — and expect a team to play with the consistency of champions?
Usually they will look to Thierry Henry, but when he is not in the mood — and, for all his brilliance, he continues to blow hot and cold — where are the players who will help to grind out results, as Chelsea and Liverpool do on a regular basis and Manchester United did away to Watford at the weekend?
Weaver was quick to play down his contribution by pointing out that he “didn’t have too much to do”. Bearing in mind the number of times Arsenal seemed to have carved the City defence wide open, that, however unintended, was quite an indictment.
kulazz
New Member
damn.. i dunno what's goin on through the minds of the squad.. it'll be a very long wait for the next game wondering anxiously of we can get the W or not.. this sh!t is so depressing
