This made me think of something: compare Moaninho's reaction when Chavski scored (it was practically an eyeroll, saying "why am I even here, why do we bother playing, just give me the 3 points and I'll get going"), and Arsène's reaction when Ade scored (pure bliss, bouncing like a little boy. Put a huge smile on my face. Well, it would have if I wasn't already grinning after the goal ). I think that says a lot about the philosophy of Wenger v. the philosophy of The Special One ("big clubs don't win ugly" v. "victory above all"). Which is why the Chavski-Liverpool game was so boring, whereas the ManUtd-Arsenal game was the epitome of a great match (you've gotta credit ManUtd. too, of course). On the pitch, we have dignity. We feel the need to play "attractive football", because otherwise victory won't mean as much. We don't want to become a team that wins while putting everyone to sleep. Classless Chavski is the exact opposite. It's "we're winning, so everyone shut up and let us go on with our job". I firmly believe that Moaninho, the Chavski players and the fans have lost the ability to actually enjoy both victory and football itself. Looking at Willy Gallas celebrating at Old Trafford, I think that's true.