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PL | Manchester United vs Arsenal | December 5, 2018 | BT Sport | 20:00 GMT

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by APierre, Dec 2, 2018.

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Match prediction

Poll closed Dec 5, 2018.
  1. Manchester United win

    9.5%
  2. Draw

    25.0%
  3. Arsenal win

    59.5%
  4. Great match thread

    14.3%
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  1. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    Yeah that's completely true. Hopefully we'll give them the tw@tting they should've gotten at home last season this time around.
     
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  2. Xanth

    Xanth Active Member

    United fans are still moaning about Torreira.
     
  3. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    FA still exist purely to do Utd's bidding I see.
     
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  4. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Not A Big Believer In Diversity

    Rojo, Fellaini, Lingard should all have walked, they've got no right to complain.
     
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  5. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    I think RAWK were correct when they said FA stands for the Ferguson Alliance.
     
  6. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    So according to the FA when a referee makes a mistake it is more important to double down on that mistake rather than coming to the correct decision.
     
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  7. Fallout

    Fallout Well-Known Member

    reactions to a few points in this thread:

    -- imo we do better with a back four, but i suspect emery went with a three for consistency and for fear that united would use lukaku and fellaini to create threatening knock-downs (which ultimately cost us anyway). i think he wanted to prioritize winning the second balls, because he thought our defenders would lose aerial duels vs. those two.

    -- it's clear that united were told to rough us up. similar to how we treated Sp**s tbf, but united were nastier and should have seen red. that being said, i think the guendouzi incident is a little overstated on here. shirt pulling is a tactical decision that players make (yellow card in exchange for stopping play), but guendouzi's hair is so long that you have nothing to grab onto near the shoulders and upper back. obviously it's unethical to pull someone's hair, but it's also not fair to the defender to restrict a region of the shirt.

    -- i think people's expectations are a little high re: certainty of a top four finish. we have been here before on several occasions (done extremely well leading up to christmas only to collapse spectacularly in Jan-March). i trust that emery has given the players a new sense of belief and work ethic, but we are very much in a dogfight and injuries have piled up quickly as a result of putting so much physical effort into the season. we are also still extremely bad at first halves -- that trend is meaningful and cannot be ignored by an objective assessment of our situation. i think 5th is our most likely outcome this season, with 4th being a good possibility also.
     
  8. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    It’s purely personell at this stage, imo we now have that basic defensive game plan it’s just about getting that Van Dijk kind of impact from a new signing. Guys like Mustafi are just a complete liability and Kola/Bellerin don’t help themselves some times.
     
  9. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    Holy moses, where have you been.

    Don't like that news. Really disappointing as usual from the FA
     
  10. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    You're pissed because they have already proven to us what they're capable of. Feel the same in a way.
     
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  11. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    What?
     
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  12. YeahBee

    YeahBee Terrible hot takes

    Cant our younger guys start a twitter campaign ?

    Expose these wankers
     
  13. Fallout

    Fallout Well-Known Member

    Do you not understand the argument? Or are you being condescending? Can't tell.
     
  14. Rimaal

    Rimaal Questionable Taste

    This game still feels like 2 points dropped to me.
     
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  15. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Not A Big Believer In Diversity

    If the Sp**s game was played on Saturday, we would have won easily with the extra day off. We still outclassed them despite fatigue and them chopping us to pieces.
     
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  16. baccy_man

    baccy_man Active Member

    I remember when the Neville brother hacked Jose Antonio Reyes to pieces he was never the same player after utd had finished with him so they have form for this type of play that goes back a long way.
     
  17. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Honestly watching it again , sick of kicking . Need to be concertedly aggressive with them from now on . If we don't , we are always going to get kicked up in the air .
     
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  18. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    Exactly. Last year a point at OT would have felt decent in any circumstance. This felt like a team on the precipice of being special just having a needless blip against dreck. A couple of days removed now though I can better appreciate how dreadful the referee was and how filthy United were and how that played a part in the result.
     
  19. Rouski

    Rouski Active Member

    Maybe but every club in the premiership regressed at some stage. Changing the manager is not always the right change to make.
     
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  20. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    Torreira dished out as much as he took. Absolutely love the little man.
     
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