PL: Portsmouth vs Arsenal | 12/04/06

[Legend#1]

Here's my customary post match rant..

Ade had been very good up until last night's disaster, i'm willing to give him a chance.

In the summer though, we need:

GK
CB
DM
Winger
CF

That's if Cole stays and Henry (as I suspect he will and have suspected all along) goes.

Pires is past it and old.. Reyes isn't a bloody LW, if played on any wing he's much more productive on the right, but he's a 2nd striker first and foremost, and Wenger is ruining Reyes by playing him on the left where he's absolutely wasted, despite getting countless assists, he'll NEVER score like Bobby did on the left.

Freddie gives us absolutely nothing on the right anymore, but hard work.. his best position hasd always been on the left and I am still waiting for the day Wenger switches both of them around, since we don't cross balls, both just end up cutting in and passing sideways.

We need a DM, cause Alex Song is young, inexperienced and will never be good enough for a club challenging for the title, Gilberto is getting older and needs replacing sooner or later.

We need a CF, cause Henry will be off imo and Bergkamp is retiring, that just leaves RvP, Ade and Walcott (Who hasn't even made a start yet, and I don't know what position Wenger wants to play him in, probably as a winger, if so, then we won't need a winger, bla bla bla, i'm confused)

A CB, Sol looked hungry, fit and had desire last night, but he still managed to break his nose and split his eye, he is far too injury prone and will need replacing.. Because Senderos is still learning and Djourou is only 19, no matter how promising both are.

A young GK, cause who knows if Jens' form can carry onto next season, since he won't be fighting for a place at the WC.. There's rumours of Pele from Le Mans, he's young and has the potential, so that's a start.

I would like:

Pires
Sol

out.. maybe Freddie, but he won't be, so keep him around as a squad player nothing else.

 

[DannyDyer]

knee jerk reaction by Legend90210

 

[Legend#1]

knee jerk reaction by Legend90210

Not really no, i've thought it all along and have you forgotten that we are 30 pts behind Chelsea? Oh and 4 pts behind Tottenham, oh and 5th place.

Feel free to argue some of my points, instead of just writing b/s like you usually do.

The only thing I would argue with is keeping Freddie, but not a 1st team regular, keeping Sol as experience, since it won't hinder Senderos or Djourou.

Pires can leave, Bergkamp is leaving, Henry will go imo and Cole will stay imo.

 

[cc]

Here's my customary post match rant..

Ade had been very good up until last night's disaster, i'm willing to give him a chance.

his finishing is consistantly aweful, just lucky enough not cost us any points till last night.

 

[RocktheCasbah]

knee jerk reaction by Legend90210

I guess you haven't even heard the term "irony", so you wouldn't understand it either...

 

[Legend#1]

Here's my customary post match rant..

Ade had been very good up until last night's disaster, i'm willing to give him a chance.

his finishing is consistantly aweful, just lucky enough not cost us any points till last night.

That'll come in time, in 10 games, he's scored 4 and assisted 3.

Yeah, real bad showing :roll:

 

[Hilal]

All Adebayor has proved to me is that an orthodox striker can function in our system, and can get on the end of a **** load of chances. God only knows what we could do with a top class finisher in this team.

 

[Kenyonhater]

Ade did play pants but being a new He has my bedding-in season and support. He did remind me alot of Henry in 1999, I've never forgotten that Thiery and I'll thus give Ade some time. Am happy with a point and I want to see how the yids do on everton and ManU and I'll be worried after that.

Good point about Henry in '99. His first ten games? Two goals, in games nine and ten. Before that a couple of assists and lots of missed chances, skying shots all over the place. Adebayor's first ten? Four goals, four assists and lots of missed chances.

I'm not suggesting he's in Henry's class but for some people to say he has not improved us in any way, shape or form and deserves crucifying for his misses last night is not only plain wrong it's pathetic and frankly offensive. Such statements deserve the flak they've received and to ***** about people getting personal having said such things is laughably two-faced .

All this doom and gloom is a bit much. One week we're supreme all-conquerors the next we're utter ****e and deserve hanging...It's not over yet. Show some loyalty and belief ffs. We can get 4th place AND win the Champions League. It's all still possible.

 

[Viper]

Good point about Henry in '99. His first ten games? Two goals, in games nine and ten. Before that a couple of assists and lots of missed chances, skying shots all over the place. Adebayor's first ten? Four goals, four assists and lots of missed chances.

Henry was originally a left winger.

You cannot simply place a left winger in a striker role and except him to blossom in his first few games.

 

[Bergy_1995]

Last night was a joke.

I nearly screamed.

 

[tgr]

reyes wanna torres joining arsenal...

 

[Bergy_1995]

reyes wanna torres joining arsenal...

Wrong thread mate.

 

[Rohit]

In all our successful years with Wenger we did not need an Adebayor type striker did we so i never understood why he was bought in the first place,plan B may be ??
Some may argue that then we had the physical presence of Vieira,personally i do not agree though.

We started so well with Gilberto and Cesc last season with Vieira out,some of the best football we've ever played and that sort of football with those two in the centre has never been replicated since by us ,what changed i ve not been able to fathom.

Anyways Ade has impressed since he was bought though,he does offer a lot.I remember Henry once missing an open goal against Southampton once.
Lets give Ade a chance.
Just thinking that Tottenham may finish above us sends a shiver down my spine,we can console ourselves by saying that they have difficult games left but they ll be up for it,sadly in the league they just seem to have more fight in them than our players do,may be not more quality.
Why can't we replicate the kind of fight and hunger we showed against Juventus at Highbury is the league is beyond me ???

Tottenham above Arsenal,oh the horror !!!

 

[patrick42uk]

lol. all we did was draw but now we are back to 'henry is to blame for every bad result' and 'its not reyes' fault he plays ****'.

 

[yayo77]

such a disappointing result.

 

[Kenyonhater]

Viper
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:38 pm

Originally posted by Kenyonhater:

Good point about Henry in '99. His first ten games? Two goals, in games nine and ten. Before that a couple of assists and lots of missed chances, skying shots all over the place. Adebayor's first ten? Four goals, four assists and lots of missed chances.

Henry was originally a left winger.

You cannot simply place a left winger in a striker role and except him to blossom in his first few games.




No, he was originally a striker as a youth and scored goals for fun. That's where Wenger preferred him at Monaco. It was only later that he was shifted to the wing and stayed there when he went to Juve. Anyway, he still got slated in his first months here. My point is that Adebayor has done pretty well in his first couple of months. Most players from foreign leagues need a lengthy period of adapting to the Premiership but he's adapted very quickly. Wenger said how pleasantly surprised he has been by him. Last night was poor but the slagging he's getting is over the top.

 

[James]

No, he was originally a striker as a youth and scored goals for fun. That's where Wenger preferred him at Monaco. It was only later that he was shifted to the wing and stayed there when he went to Juve. Anyway, he still got slated in his first months here. My point is that Adebayor has done pretty well in his first couple of months. Most players from foreign leagues need a lengthy period of adapting to the Premiership but he's adapted very quickly. Wenger said how pleasantly surprised he has been by him. Last night was poor but the slating he's getting is over the top.

I was going to make this exact point. Nicely said.

 

[Viper]

Last night was poor but the slating he's getting is over the top.

I'm sure if the game against Portsmouth was not an important match for us then he would not have recieved the bashing on this forum.

 

[ebhenry]

as usual. here we go again. what a cycle, we win, we are great, we loose, wenger henry and co become ****e. i wonder why we are surprised. we have been like this all season.
in fact in the 11 games we've lost so far, it was only at bolton i remember we didnt create enough chances to score.
our problem all season has been goal scoring, not scoring enough, and not taking chances.
freedie and pires have always contributed immensely to our goals and assist, and we havent been able to replace them or replicate their form.
as for the CL, we create some but score when we need to. my greatest fear is that we dont run out of luck, the defense can cope for only so long and if we dont start taking this chances, its bye bye paris.
the games we have left aint easier imo. playing relegation candidates or people jostling for UEFA cup positions isn't easy.
we may not win like we expect, so prepare for the worst.
i hope cesc is fit for the CL games, without him, we are f***d up pretty bad.

 

[JGooner]

All Adebayor has proved to me is that an orthodox striker can function in our system, and can get on the end of a s**t load of chances. God only knows what we could do with a top class finisher in this team.

Interesting point which I haven't considered. I remember the debates people used to have here about whether a "fox in the box" could ever work at Arsenal, or whether it would just result in us being less creative. I think Adebayor has indeed shown that it would work, given the right "fox". Maybe Wenger knows this. Maybe this is why the Torres rumours never die...

Anyroad, it looks like we have major work to do in midfield before we worry about our strikers. Ljungberg's limitations are now being routinely exposed. We should have cashed in on him a couple of years back. Pires needs to be replaced within the next year or two. Song is dogshit but this doesn't worry me so much because Diaby looks good enough to lock up that role in the long term. Hleb is a conundrum - I can't work whether his technical skill makes up for his occasional lack of purpose and the fact that he will never be a regular goalscorer. Remember when Pires was so sublime that every move he made had a point to it and he was slamming 15 goals a season? We need another one of those. Walcott?

As for Henry v Reyes, a pox on both their houses. Henry really needs to check his head. His moodiness and *****ing has become so entrenched that I think some of the other players just regard it as a bit of a joke, which it isn't even having the effect of motivating them. On the hand, Reyes doesn't cut it. Playing in the number 10 role may suit him more, but his core problems - lack of decisiveness, failure to beat his man consistently - will plague him in any attacking position.