PL: Sheffield United vs Arsenal | Monday 21st October | KO: 20:00 | Sky Sports

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by Rex Banter, Oct 11, 2019.

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What will the result be?

Poll closed Oct 21, 2019.
  1. Arsenal win

    51.9%
  2. Draw

    23.4%
  3. Sheffield Utd win

    24.7%
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  1. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    I think our defence actually looked alright last night (Kolasinac aside). It's our midfield that is killing us.

    Willock never even touched the ball (don't think I heard his name mentioned once by commentators), Xhaka is a second rate footballer and Geundouzi has to try and do everything on his own. We have no creativity, we created ONE chance in that game.

    Emery's team selection is absolutely woeful, just can't get my head around some of the decisions he makes. He gets everything back to front. Start your best 11 and then make the changes you moron.
     
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  2. Ashybashy86

    Ashybashy86 Well-Known Member

    Of course he didn't dive, but you know, Mike Dean.
    This is him before every Arsenal game he officiates:
     
  3. Ewarwoowar

    Ewarwoowar Well-Known Member

    Watching Arsenal is like watching a gang of pikeys going at your missus whilst Emery holding her down.
     
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  4. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    Feck, now that you mention it he was completely anonymous.
     
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  5. Riou

    Riou Nostalgia Merchant

    Emery plays him as a defensive 10 tbf, if played in actual midfield he would probably be our best midfielder.
     
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  6. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    Defence looked alright because Sheffield don't have any quality in forward areas. Their xG rarely crosses 1.0. And in the 2nd half they basically sat back anyway. Watch when Palace and Wolves turn up at the Emirates, they'll slice right through us again.
     
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  7. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    We won't beat any of the top sides either. We're well and truly doomed on this path. All those fools qutoing the fact we were 3rd a week ago are going to look very silly in May.
     
  8. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    So was Aubameyang. It’s a function of our inability to progress the ball from back to front. Same thing happened to Bukayo when he was moved from LW to CAM(!?) after Laca came on.

    Willock should’ve been played deeper where he can drive past the first and second press or win a duel that takes 1 or 2 opponents out.

    His passing is also more incisive than Xhaka and Douzi. Emery deserves his P45 for using CMs in a roaming CAM role.
     
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  9. Dutch D

    Dutch D Well-Known Member

    The difference being the CAM does have a role in progression by being available in half spaces between the lines. It's clearly not Willock's forte though, he's much better when playing deeper and facing the goal as you say.

    One can always distinguish a natural CAM by how they occupy spaces. Ziyech, Özil, De Bruyne, Eriksen, they are always able to receive the ball in dangerous positions. Willock is not a CAM.
     
  10. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter YNWA Trusted

    They got bankrolled by a Russian oligarch ffs, not as heartwarming a story as they’d have you believe.

    Did f*ck all at Burnley without the money.
     
  11. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Well-Known Member

    I literally said before the game that Willock would not touch the ball. We saw it vs Newcastle away. What would change? It is not a negative on Willock. He just doesn't play in that position.

    His strengths are duels, covering long distances, driving with the ball and arriving in the box. How can he arrive if he is already there?

    It's why Ramsey looks so much better as a central midfielder than he does as a 10. If you are going to play a double pivot with a 10, then that player needs to be strong, be able to shoot from distance, be able to dribble, be a good first time passer, have good movement and also have the eye for a run beyond the striker.

    We have one player in the squad that fits that profile. It's not Özil. It is Smith-Rowe.
     
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  12. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    The number 10 needs to be good with his back to goal, something not inWillocks locker. I wonder how Lacazette would fair there as he is our best striker with his back to goal clever with the ball and clearly a goal threat inside and outside the box. It would also be an attacking decision

    Martinelli Aubameyang Pepe
    Lacazette
    Chambers/Willock Guendouzi
    Tierney Luiz Holding Bellerin

    I think that attack near justifies two more naturally defensive minded midfielders.
     
  13. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Well-Known Member

    the whole point is the number 10 doesn't receive it back to goal. Should receive it on the half turn.
     
  14. Gunner boy dd

    Gunner boy dd On Loan To Bayern, No Option To Buy

    Bournemouth bankrolled? Going on like they’re Chelsea or something. Howes done wonders for Bournemouth. Most the players playing in their squad in their 1st season in the premiership had been with the club when they were in the lower divisions. Can’t have you discrediting him. If you’re going to respect Wilder (rightly so) then Howe deserves respect also. He was only at Burnley for a season also.
     
  15. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter YNWA Trusted

    They’ve had a net spend of £175M since getting into the PL, 7th highest in the league in that period.

    Thats higher than Liverpool, Sp**s, Chelsea and Leicester. They make nothing through player sales so the spin about little Bournemouth fighting the good fight is wide of the mark.

    He had one and a half years at Burnley, and struggled.
     
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  16. Gunner boy dd

    Gunner boy dd On Loan To Bayern, No Option To Buy

    I’m saying that to go from the bottom division into the premiership, while still playing good football deserves respect. I’m sure if Wilder keeps Utd up in the premiership for 2/3 seasons then he’ll spend money as well bro.. crazy money in these TV rights, so the smaller clubs can spend more money.
     
  17. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Policing Emery's English Skills

    Net spend is a totally irrelevant as a figure.

    Consider team A:
    Sells a player for £150m. Buys 3 players at £50m each. Their net spend is £0.
    Consider team B:
    Has no player to sell and buys 3 players at £50m each. Their net spend is £150m.

    Those teams have the same assets but it looks like team B is spending more, when you quote net spend.

    The entire Liverpool squad cost £639m. The entire Bournemouth squad cost £215m. That's the only figure that has meaning in relation to quality on the pitch.
     
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  18. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    A number 10 can receive the ball in a variety of ways. Regardless of how they receive it they need to link midfield and attack which I think we can all safely say is not happening. The ball goes up and rarely sticks.

    If we dont trust our other 10 to play on the half turn get a 10 in who can play back to goal, hold it up, lay off and pick up a new position. Firminho does this for Liverpool he plays as a half 9 half 10.

    We could get rid of the ten and play a flat 3 midfield and put a front three of Aubameyang Lacazette Pepe out or try Lacazette in the ten and have Aubameyang through the middle with Saka or another out wide.
     
  19. pigge

    pigge Well-Known Member

    They played us pretty well imo. Pushed us out on the wings, with Kola and Chambers there, not really a threat with their poor crossing. Woulda made a big difference with Tierney on the left flank imo. Everytime he crosses it's pinpoint and a goal chance. They would not be able to afford letting him be alone there and would have to let the middle of the pitch go a bit more. Also our slowpaced passing to get forward made it easy for them to flood the pitch where the ball was before we could get into a dangerous area.

    People forget this gang dont let goals in. And we shouldve had a pen or two probably. Pepe shoulda scored.

    Our general game plan looked poor at best though, and thats on the manager imo as is, ofcourse, the selection of player which was poor. 2W 0L in Europa league. Coulda played Kolasinac there instead and gotten Tierney gametime vs this lot and use him on sunday as well. Kola has had time to prove himself and he has been bang average or poor and thats not good enough, you shouldn't have to loose four games for us to try what looks like a better player. Poor squad management.
     
  20. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Yes but you have to get them the ball. You need players in deeper positions who can receive the ball under pressure and play incisive passes to the CAM. That’s where we have struggled badly since Cazorla’s injury.
     
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