Eirico
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bigtimetopbanana said:
Did we see the same game? Thought Kos was solid, very aggressive in the challanges and dealt with what came. I missed the first 25 mins though.
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Ratings and post-match discussion vs Braga
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Did we see the same game? Thought Kos was solid, very aggressive in the challanges and dealt with what came. I missed the first 25 mins though.
Eirico
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outlaw_member said:
And the CL I agree, should get off the pedal when the victory is sealed. But in the PL, we need the goal difference, so I would like us to give teams a thumping, like Chelsea does, whenever we can.
Invincible
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For me, Fabregas is in the top 10 players in the world. Simply outstanding.
Biggus
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Braga were sh!t, we're flat track bullies- but thats what we had to do.flobaba said:
These big wins will be doing our confidence no harm at all players like Chamakh Arshavin and Vela thrive on goals.
I thought Koscielny was pretty solid too.
Freagle
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Great performance all round. Very very happy.
I was shocked by Songs performance aswell...Id give him a 4 personally...tooo many misplaced passes, not the usual bite and determination defending. H ereally stood out.
Clichy with usual blunders in and around our own area...ldeft me speechless. 2 times he got away with it, but in the prem tha tcould have been costly.
Otherwise a brilliant game from everyone. But guys, dont slate off Braga...we all know how it works. You can beat a team 6-0 and then lose to them the next time, no matter when that will be. Theyv beaten Celtic and Sevilla, they cant be too bad. Its probably down to it being their first CL game and us being at the top of our game the first 10 minutes. Once it was 3-0 they probably gave up already.
I just hope this result wont make our players complacent. What they showed after leading 1-0 till the 30th was almost nothing.
Clichy with usual blunders in and around our own area...ldeft me speechless. 2 times he got away with it, but in the prem tha tcould have been costly.
Otherwise a brilliant game from everyone. But guys, dont slate off Braga...we all know how it works. You can beat a team 6-0 and then lose to them the next time, no matter when that will be. Theyv beaten Celtic and Sevilla, they cant be too bad. Its probably down to it being their first CL game and us being at the top of our game the first 10 minutes. Once it was 3-0 they probably gave up already.
I just hope this result wont make our players complacent. What they showed after leading 1-0 till the 30th was almost nothing.
Biggus
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BTW voted Fab he was fab.
Bossa
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Almunia 7
Sagna 7
Squillaci 7
Koscielny 7
Clichy 6
Song 6
Wilshere 8
Fabregas 10
Nasri 7
Arshavin 8
Chamakh 8
Sagna 7
Squillaci 7
Koscielny 7
Clichy 6
Song 6
Wilshere 8
Fabregas 10
Nasri 7
Arshavin 8
Chamakh 8
goonerwarsh
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Don't really want to single out all the players because I thought it was a great team performance. So well done boys, love watching them when they're in that form!!
Feanor
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Captain Fabby Fabulous...that came off a little gay...
Feanor
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I actually thought it was not a great team performance. Too many misplaced passes and a little sloppy on Defense, a better team could have really punished us.
ricky1985
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Almunia - 7. Not much to do, but collected some moderately difficult crosses well enough.
Sagna - 6. Braaga barely attacked down his flank, probably because he repelled them pretty easily whenever they did. Barely got forward though and had one or two slack moments.
Squillaci - 6. Won most challenges he went in for, but barely had to make any.
Koscielny - 7. Bullied there forwards and made some great challenges. One-on-one he's so reliable.
Clichy - 7. Made countless great interceptions, but was very sloppy one or two times. Also made some strange decision when he was faced up against their wide player a few times. Everything they did came down his side - that happens every time he plays and it can;t be a coincidence that teams frequently choose to attack Clichy and not Sagna (although Arshavin is no doubt a factor in that).
Song - 5. Was better in the second half, but gave the ball away far too many times. Was also positionally suspect right the way through - in fact Wilshere showed him up in that respect by comparison. It's difficult to be too critical of his passing, combination play, touch etc. Because there is not many midfielders out there who would not be shown up when playing with such technically gifted players around him and being asked to play at such speed.
Wilshere - 8. His passing was a little more incisive in this game than it has been previously, but it makes me laugh how that's all it takes for people to recognise how good he is. His game without the ball and his consistent passing from deep was not really any different to what it has been for the majority of this season. He takes up the right positions and makes the right decisions over and over again.
Fabregas - 9. Linked brilliantly with Wilshere in the final third, and with Jack dominating the game from deep that meant Cesc played further up the pitch, and he revelled in it.
Nasri - 7. Nice touches and close control, but no real end product. Worked tirelessly though.
Arshavin - 8. Difficult one to grade. He was abysmal at times, his passing was so sloppy and he constantly weakens our defensive game, either by giving the ball away at the worst possible time or when he doesn't keep shape and that harms our attempt at pressing. On the other hand he was brilliant for the most part in the final third.
Chamakh - 8. Gave a master-class in forward play for the 60 minutes he was on the pitch. Everything was there when it was needed - pace, touch, strength, awareness, intelligent movement, timing, finishing, work rate. What more could you want?
Subs
Eboue - 5. He looked bright but his passing was really poor.
Denilson - 6. Didn't really get involved like he normally does when coming on.
Vela - 8. Looked so lively. The question is can he have the same sort of impact from the left or right wing, or from the start of games?
Sagna - 6. Braaga barely attacked down his flank, probably because he repelled them pretty easily whenever they did. Barely got forward though and had one or two slack moments.
Squillaci - 6. Won most challenges he went in for, but barely had to make any.
Koscielny - 7. Bullied there forwards and made some great challenges. One-on-one he's so reliable.
Clichy - 7. Made countless great interceptions, but was very sloppy one or two times. Also made some strange decision when he was faced up against their wide player a few times. Everything they did came down his side - that happens every time he plays and it can;t be a coincidence that teams frequently choose to attack Clichy and not Sagna (although Arshavin is no doubt a factor in that).
Song - 5. Was better in the second half, but gave the ball away far too many times. Was also positionally suspect right the way through - in fact Wilshere showed him up in that respect by comparison. It's difficult to be too critical of his passing, combination play, touch etc. Because there is not many midfielders out there who would not be shown up when playing with such technically gifted players around him and being asked to play at such speed.
Wilshere - 8. His passing was a little more incisive in this game than it has been previously, but it makes me laugh how that's all it takes for people to recognise how good he is. His game without the ball and his consistent passing from deep was not really any different to what it has been for the majority of this season. He takes up the right positions and makes the right decisions over and over again.
Fabregas - 9. Linked brilliantly with Wilshere in the final third, and with Jack dominating the game from deep that meant Cesc played further up the pitch, and he revelled in it.
Nasri - 7. Nice touches and close control, but no real end product. Worked tirelessly though.
Arshavin - 8. Difficult one to grade. He was abysmal at times, his passing was so sloppy and he constantly weakens our defensive game, either by giving the ball away at the worst possible time or when he doesn't keep shape and that harms our attempt at pressing. On the other hand he was brilliant for the most part in the final third.
Chamakh - 8. Gave a master-class in forward play for the 60 minutes he was on the pitch. Everything was there when it was needed - pace, touch, strength, awareness, intelligent movement, timing, finishing, work rate. What more could you want?
Subs
Eboue - 5. He looked bright but his passing was really poor.
Denilson - 6. Didn't really get involved like he normally does when coming on.
Vela - 8. Looked so lively. The question is can he have the same sort of impact from the left or right wing, or from the start of games?
Yaya
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almunia-6.5
Sagna-6
squillaci-6.5
Kos-7
clichy-6
song-5
wilshere-8
cesc-9.5
Nasri-6.5
Arshavin-7.5
chamakh-8.5
vela-8
Sagna-6
squillaci-6.5
Kos-7
clichy-6
song-5
wilshere-8
cesc-9.5
Nasri-6.5
Arshavin-7.5
chamakh-8.5
vela-8
yuvken
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Ratings more or less with Qs/Ricky85 (I'd up kos a bit, song got too much stick here).
Points: Apart from Cesc's performance (oh, yeah), it was him keeping the team with this hunger all the way (at points, as outlaw mentioned, I thought: wow, that's great from him, but - watch out! he ran like crazy in the last few minutes doing risky things). I say give him to Barca for free - who needs him and his sort?
Jack - that's just great. His little assist to Chamakh, those two wonder passes in the second - fantastic. Those who sing "no players in progress in first team" would do well to forget his name.
Chamakh: End of debate. He may not always play at this level, but whoever still doubts what we have is very slow.
Arsha: If he stays in that motivation level, and meets cesc like that, we'll be allowed to dream again.
Vela: we never doubted he has it in him, but this needs to go on for us to be sure he's really there. a bit early to celebrate, but this can't be bad.
Kos: deserves more credit than mentioned here - I'm a bit surprised tbh. His second half was a fantastic performance - assured, alert, quick, strong - I kept a special eye on him and I was very happy with what I saw.
AW? well, I almost feel I owe him an apology, but I only really joined giving him stick for Al.
But I am now certain his Chamakh, Kos moves were great (Robin who?
), and other moves seem to deserve credit as well (Denilson, Jack, Vela, even Cesc and Arsha; It even looks a bit like our D approach is starting to change. Early, I know).
Proportion: I must admit I thought this was quite poor from Braga, mainly in the second half (but do I prefer a hard fought 2-0 to 6:0? what? :wink: )
Points: Apart from Cesc's performance (oh, yeah), it was him keeping the team with this hunger all the way (at points, as outlaw mentioned, I thought: wow, that's great from him, but - watch out! he ran like crazy in the last few minutes doing risky things). I say give him to Barca for free - who needs him and his sort?
Jack - that's just great. His little assist to Chamakh, those two wonder passes in the second - fantastic. Those who sing "no players in progress in first team" would do well to forget his name.
Chamakh: End of debate. He may not always play at this level, but whoever still doubts what we have is very slow.
Arsha: If he stays in that motivation level, and meets cesc like that, we'll be allowed to dream again.
Vela: we never doubted he has it in him, but this needs to go on for us to be sure he's really there. a bit early to celebrate, but this can't be bad.
Kos: deserves more credit than mentioned here - I'm a bit surprised tbh. His second half was a fantastic performance - assured, alert, quick, strong - I kept a special eye on him and I was very happy with what I saw.
AW? well, I almost feel I owe him an apology, but I only really joined giving him stick for Al.
But I am now certain his Chamakh, Kos moves were great (Robin who?
), and other moves seem to deserve credit as well (Denilson, Jack, Vela, even Cesc and Arsha; It even looks a bit like our D approach is starting to change. Early, I know).Proportion: I must admit I thought this was quite poor from Braga, mainly in the second half (but do I prefer a hard fought 2-0 to 6:0? what? :wink: )
nazo
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Just watched the game and some people really underrated Arshavin's performance. He was back to his very best.
Cesc was a man possessed. Hopefully he can do that against Sunderland now.
Wilshere was amazing for the first hour but slowed down after that. He was playing with confidence and i hope he continues to do that against better opposition.
Cesc was a man possessed. Hopefully he can do that against Sunderland now.
Wilshere was amazing for the first hour but slowed down after that. He was playing with confidence and i hope he continues to do that against better opposition.
IBL
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One moment that really epitomised Cesc's hunger was this mazy run on the right wing in the second half where he twice saved an almost lost cause and managed to get a cross in, even Nasri had stopped his run towards the box as he felt the cross was never going to come.
