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Ratings and post-match discussion vs Partizan
- Thread starter Klaus Daimler
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In just over a week we have let in 2 goals against the worst Villa team for years and goals at home against Fulham and Partisan who have struggled to score away from home all season,
I bet Man u must be rubbing their hands together, along with Barca, Bayern etc. our defence is a joke
I bet Man u must be rubbing their hands together, along with Barca, Bayern etc. our defence is a joke
ThaSaltCracka
Well-Known Member
Overly harsh ratings by some for Denilson imo. I don't really rate him at all, but I thought he played really well in the second half. The whole team was a pile of meh in the first, but for me in the second, he really played well and I think he was one of our best players today. Wenger was clearly resting some players and giving some games to a few. That midfield was never really going to create much today with RVP in the hole. I think with a different starting XI we batter them, but Wenger wanted to give RVP a full game and rest Wilshere.
asajoseph
Established Member
Koscielny caused us a lot problems right after we conceded, including getting totally done by Cleo about 5 minutes after the goal. He pushes out of defence so quickly, but is nowhere near composed enough to judge the situation well enough to prevent us from getting caught in disarray at the back when he gets it wrong. He's just far too rash, the most immature defender we have by a mile. If he was 21, I'd find it easier to look past this at all the good things he does, but though he's hardly got any experience, his age makes it difficult for me to take him seriously.
Player:Tomiyasu
Fabianski 7
Sagna 7
Squillaci 6
Koscielny 6
Gibbs 6
Nasri 7
Denilson 4
Song 5
Arshavin 5.5
RVP 6
Chamakh 5
Eboue 6
Theo 6
Bendtner 5.5
Sagna 7
Squillaci 6
Koscielny 6
Gibbs 6
Nasri 7
Denilson 4
Song 5
Arshavin 5.5
RVP 6
Chamakh 5
Eboue 6
Theo 6
Bendtner 5.5
KY
Established Member
So it's either to spain or to germany we go...
asajoseph
Established Member
Fabianski - 7
Sagna - 6
Squillaci - 6
Koscielny - 5
Gibbs - 5
Nasri - 7
Denilson - 5
Song - 6
Arshavin - 4
Van Persie - 5
Chamakh - 4
Eboue - 6
Theo - 6.5
Bendtner - 6.5
Sagna - 6
Squillaci - 6
Koscielny - 5
Gibbs - 5
Nasri - 7
Denilson - 5
Song - 6
Arshavin - 4
Van Persie - 5
Chamakh - 4
Eboue - 6
Theo - 6.5
Bendtner - 6.5
gstew
Well-Known Member
I'm absolutely shocked by Song's ratings. I thought that he was excellent defensively and the third goal was all him.
fab-7
sagna-7 (would have been 8 & MOTM if not for the card)
squid-6
kos-7 Covered well and showed great pace
gibbs-6
song-7.5
denilson-4 Awful.....absolutely awful
vanpersie-5.5 Great free kick, but otherwise poor
nasri-7.5
arshavin-2 Made Denilson look like a star
chamakh-5.5
eboue-7
theo-7 Great finish
bendtner-5
fab-7
sagna-7 (would have been 8 & MOTM if not for the card)
squid-6
kos-7 Covered well and showed great pace
gibbs-6
song-7.5
denilson-4 Awful.....absolutely awful
vanpersie-5.5 Great free kick, but otherwise poor
nasri-7.5
arshavin-2 Made Denilson look like a star
chamakh-5.5
eboue-7
theo-7 Great finish
bendtner-5
This is why buying quality rather than average pays off, now we are stuck with Squillaci and Kos.asajoseph said:
If Wenger goes out and buys a top CB and DM we might have a chance of winning something, if he doesn't it will be business as usual, 4th place and nothing else
ThaSaltCracka
Well-Known Member
Still think both players were bought as cover. I've also noticed Koscielny getting pulled out of position often and I agree that will get exploited by tactically astute teams. Both are good backups (Koscielny may eventually be a first choice starter), but I would definitely rather have TV and DJ in there.
Agree with qstew about Song as well. To be honest this is a tough game to rate because the whole team was pretty average in the first half, but several players played really well in the second.
Agree with qstew about Song as well. To be honest this is a tough game to rate because the whole team was pretty average in the first half, but several players played really well in the second.
goonerwarsh
Established Member
Quite funny to watch Theo desperate at the end there to show off his new tatts!!
yuvken
Established Member
As usual, coming here after a funny game like this brings many surprises, unveils many agendas, and hard to breath with all the emotion. We're through, bottom line. We're screwed if we play like this even against a second string Schalke, let alone the thpanish teams.
VP - didn't play yet. Or at least I hope there's 7 tons of rust still to come off. And I'd like the joke of us playing without an AM to stop here (I thought almost from the off Rosicky would have changed the game. even Nas there would do much good. It was useless the way it was).
Lessons to be learned about the VP Chamakh option? they were both poor, so maybe not. but suspicion begins to creep.
TV. Until he's here, it's Alice in wonderland - all sorts of surprises, new category each time.
Kos is not nearly as bad as described here, and today he was better than his partner, though hardly flawless.
AA (perhaps not in the first few minutes) was just pathetic. I thought he was really in form (I hope he is, but this?)
So good we have Samir - one thing we can be sure of, even in complete darkness. But even he doesn't merit a 7 today (him and theo - 6.5. No one else gets even that).
I liked Eboue's contribution. Not enough for a u-turn about him, but it was nice to see. If he can focus, maybe he can cover for Bac next game.
grrrr. Horrible to watch, but .... more of the same, please (get the result at old T and vs Chelsea is what I mean. After that I'd like to see our team back - this is not good for my health).
VP - didn't play yet. Or at least I hope there's 7 tons of rust still to come off. And I'd like the joke of us playing without an AM to stop here (I thought almost from the off Rosicky would have changed the game. even Nas there would do much good. It was useless the way it was).
Lessons to be learned about the VP Chamakh option? they were both poor, so maybe not. but suspicion begins to creep.
TV. Until he's here, it's Alice in wonderland - all sorts of surprises, new category each time.
Kos is not nearly as bad as described here, and today he was better than his partner, though hardly flawless.
AA (perhaps not in the first few minutes) was just pathetic. I thought he was really in form (I hope he is, but this?)
So good we have Samir - one thing we can be sure of, even in complete darkness. But even he doesn't merit a 7 today (him and theo - 6.5. No one else gets even that).
I liked Eboue's contribution. Not enough for a u-turn about him, but it was nice to see. If he can focus, maybe he can cover for Bac next game.
grrrr. Horrible to watch, but .... more of the same, please (get the result at old T and vs Chelsea is what I mean. After that I'd like to see our team back - this is not good for my health).
Humble Rex
Established Member
The thing with Arshavin is that his whole game is played with such small margins for error. When things don´t work for him he looks clueless. Mostly the case today.
That pass to Denilson though... Highlight of the game for me!
That pass to Denilson though... Highlight of the game for me!
ricky1985
Established Member
Fabianski - 6. Made a meal of that free-kick save, and took an eternity over some of his clearances, and some of them were poor clearances, too.
Sagna - 6. Was a solid enough performance, but went to sleep late on letting the Partizan attacker get in behind him, and paid the price.
Squillaci - 5. Very little to do, and was solid for the most part, but still a moment of madness for their goal.
Koscielny - 6. A bit more to do, and did most of it well, but still a few head scratching decisions, and played his part in the debacle that was their goal.
Gibbs - 7. Started really positively. So disappointed to see him injured again. The boy is cursed.
Song - 6. A moment of class for Nasri's goal, but his passing was dreadful. Frequently he took an eternity to do precisely nothing. Made some good interceptions and tackles, but was generally poor all round.
Denilson - 6. Good spell for the first 20 minutes of the second half, but was poor for the rest of the match. Like Song, he just doesn't see forward passes quickly enough. So many square and backward passes. Lost the ball so many times through a poor touch or lack of awareness.
Nasri - 7. Just never saw the ball. The midfield were appalling at feeding the forwards the ball quickly enough for them to exploit the space they had managed to find. Great finish for his goal.
Arshavin - 4. One of his "I couldn't give a toss about the outcome of this match" performances. Lazy little bastard.
van Persie - 6. Some exquisite touches, but struggled for long periods. I don't like him in the playmaking role, never have, but he had no movement from the striker ahead of him, and little in the way of forward running from midfield.
Chamakh - 4. Awful in every respect.
Subs
Eboue - 5. Really lapse in some of his defending.
Walcott - 6. Really good finish for his goal, but so predictable in nearly everything else he did. For the love of God stop running blindly to the byline Theo!
Bendtner - 5. One neat little pass for Theo aside, he was lazy and poor.
Sagna - 6. Was a solid enough performance, but went to sleep late on letting the Partizan attacker get in behind him, and paid the price.
Squillaci - 5. Very little to do, and was solid for the most part, but still a moment of madness for their goal.
Koscielny - 6. A bit more to do, and did most of it well, but still a few head scratching decisions, and played his part in the debacle that was their goal.
Gibbs - 7. Started really positively. So disappointed to see him injured again. The boy is cursed.
Song - 6. A moment of class for Nasri's goal, but his passing was dreadful. Frequently he took an eternity to do precisely nothing. Made some good interceptions and tackles, but was generally poor all round.
Denilson - 6. Good spell for the first 20 minutes of the second half, but was poor for the rest of the match. Like Song, he just doesn't see forward passes quickly enough. So many square and backward passes. Lost the ball so many times through a poor touch or lack of awareness.
Nasri - 7. Just never saw the ball. The midfield were appalling at feeding the forwards the ball quickly enough for them to exploit the space they had managed to find. Great finish for his goal.
Arshavin - 4. One of his "I couldn't give a toss about the outcome of this match" performances. Lazy little bastard.
van Persie - 6. Some exquisite touches, but struggled for long periods. I don't like him in the playmaking role, never have, but he had no movement from the striker ahead of him, and little in the way of forward running from midfield.
Chamakh - 4. Awful in every respect.
Subs
Eboue - 5. Really lapse in some of his defending.
Walcott - 6. Really good finish for his goal, but so predictable in nearly everything else he did. For the love of God stop running blindly to the byline Theo!
Bendtner - 5. One neat little pass for Theo aside, he was lazy and poor.
AnthonyG
Arse Emeritus
Yeah, I thought he was a waste of space myself. Offered nothing to be honest. Needs to decide what he's going to do with his hair also. Kind of suspicious really.Eirico said:
Oh, and Koscielny played well tonight I thought.
redanddread
The stone that the builders refuse
A fit and on form RvP is more than capable of playing that AM role.[/quote]Shue said:
IMO he isn't mobile enough for that role. I could well be wrong-he adapted to a lone striker pretty well before his injury last season and may to this AM role but it was no surprise to me that we looked so disjointed in this and the Wigan game with him playing in that role.
ricky1985
Established Member
If van Persie playing in the hole forces Wenger into playing Fabregas as a proper central midfielder, then I'm all for it.
That said, put Fabregas, Wilshere, Nasri, Arshavin and van Persie all on the pitch together at the same time, all fit and firing, and whatever the formation they'd wipe the floor with virtually any team you put in front of them.
That said, put Fabregas, Wilshere, Nasri, Arshavin and van Persie all on the pitch together at the same time, all fit and firing, and whatever the formation they'd wipe the floor with virtually any team you put in front of them.
redanddread
The stone that the builders refuse
ricky1985 said:
With that line up we have enough firepower to win most matches but it's imperative that the overall balance in the team is right. The way we are defending presently we need that many match winners in our team to compensate for our weaknessess at the back....sigh
Ron Burgundy
Established Member
Fabianski: 6.5
Sagna: 7.5 - MOTM
Squillaci: 5
Koscielny: 6
Gibbs: N/A
Denilson: 4.5
Song: 6
Arshavin: 6
van Persie: 5.5
Nasri: 7
Chamakh: 5
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Eboue: 6.5
Walcott: 7
Bendtner: N/A
Sagna: 7.5 - MOTM
Squillaci: 5
Koscielny: 6
Gibbs: N/A
Denilson: 4.5
Song: 6
Arshavin: 6
van Persie: 5.5
Nasri: 7
Chamakh: 5
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Eboue: 6.5
Walcott: 7
Bendtner: N/A
