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Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    We're going nowhere with the current ownership. Since FFP is now more or less dead, it is all about money.

    You want the richest owner you can find. The fit and proper person thing is a joke, so he can be any old dictator.

    That is what football is these days. Take a non-entity like Manchester City, throw money at it, win things.
     
  2. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    The number of times I heard a stadium full of Gooners sing the "spend some @!#$ing money" at Wenger. Well, now's the time to be singing it again. Maybe hire a plane to fly a banner over a certain ranch. I don't understand our finances because there's too much contradiction but our prestige and value is falling so hopefully we're rid of this leech sometime this decade. Until then, we're a dead club. Awful, awful owner.
     
  3. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    I hate to defend the owners but look at what we've spent and more importantly who we've spent it on.

    I'm not looking anything up so these prices are approx.

    35m Xhaka
    35m Mustafi
    50m Auba
    52m Lacazette
    26m Torrieira
    76m Pepe

    Total 274m

    Out of that 274m only 50m was well spent on Auba, that's 224m on players that are not good enough to take us forward. I know Kroenke doesnt put his hand in his own pocket but we have had money to spend, and we've spent it badly!
     
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  4. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Al Jazeera Correspondent

    There's no decent pattern to our buying, literally just random positions... we've never bought what we actually needed at the time to push forward. Wenger was the worst for that.

    Maybe now KSE can put as much in as they want without having questions asked they will give us a little boost.
     
  5. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    And you have to look deeper into them signings.

    Lacazette was opportunist. He was set for Atletico. We only went for him when it fell through and he had nowhere else to go.

    Pepe was set for Napoli. No big club Barca or Real wanted him despite what people say. Then all of a sudden we swoop in at the last minute. Again. Did we identify him or really want him or was it more a case if he will go to Napoli he will come to us.

    Mustafi was never worth 35m. He wasnt a top defender in Spain. He was very normal. Had failed in England before albeit he was very young. Didnt exactly have a wonderful standing in Italy.

    Xhaka. Again middle of the road signing. You can find thousands of Granit Xhakas in football.

    I thought Torreria would be a good player after watching him for Uruguay. Saying that Uruguay had a better defence and midfield with clear organisation.

    Its easy to look back and say these signings were bad but there were clear signs that these players maybe weren't initially what we wanted or needed. We just bought them to appease fans and make it look like we were doing something.

    No side spend 200m on forwards when its crying out for a defence. Even united one of the richest clubs in the world had to make do with Wan Bisakka and Maguire until January.
     
  6. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    This is a fair point but Kroenke hired and trusted the wrong people with the wrong tasks. We've spent badly but I truly believe that Wenger/Emery only wanted Auba and maybe Torreira on the list you posted. Gazidis was a disaster. I believe Kroenke Jnr got the Addidas deal done-a deal that pretty much eclipses any Gazidis deal and that was Gazidis' job. Stan is responsible for hiring the wrong people and not questioning them when things were obviously wrong. I also read that JW Henry and Co put £200m into Liverpool. Stan's not solely to blame but sitting back silently as we sail towards an iceberg isn't good enough.
     
  7. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    So you agree with me, we spent badly!
     
  8. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Yeah many people blame the owners but theres a clear lack of being proactive when it comes to our big signings. Theres no clear plan.
     
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  9. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    I agree, Gazidis was one of the worst things to ever happen to this club. Completely useless! As I said, I hate to defend the owners, my point was our position now is not due to lack of money to spend. Like anyone else I hate that our owner has zero interest in football, I would love to see him gone!
     
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  10. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    Agreed. I would still prefer an owner with an interest in football though. If we are stuck with him then at least Josh seems more interested! The recent restructuring of our loan should help with funds, so they are doing something to help.
     
  11. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    We may have spent badly but we have a new manager now who needs money to get the players he wants so we can play the way he wants us to play. That money has to show up somehow.
     
  12. EinmalImmerEwig

    EinmalImmerEwig Only Wants British Players At Arsenal

    Your post saying that we bought the wrong players for too much money is valid, but who hired the ****s that made these signings, and why are some of them still here?
    This arsehole of an owner is not going anywhere either.



    He may extend the repayment schedules beyond 2029 and 2031, so that's not going anywhere.

    Also, and much more worryingly, the £500m loan that he took out with Deutsche Bank to buy Usmanov's shares is maturing in August, so very possible that the new loan will be linked to the refinancing of his existing loan, so we may have to pay the cost of that £500M as well, so we have to finance £700M of his investment in The Arsenal.

    That, in my book is a leveraged buy out.

    The man is a ****, a ****ing ****, a total and utter ****, in fact a **** of the highest order.
    ****, ****, ****, ****, ****ing American wig-wearing ****!
     
  13. EinmalImmerEwig

    EinmalImmerEwig Only Wants British Players At Arsenal

  14. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Al Jazeera Correspondent

    All you've got in there is ifs buts and maybes.
     
  15. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    I dont want him here so dont go off on one at me!
     
  16. EinmalImmerEwig

    EinmalImmerEwig Only Wants British Players At Arsenal

    Sorry, I misunderstood the bit where you said "
    I hate to defend the owners but look at what we've spent and more importantly who we've spent it on. " then.

    The "defend the owners" bit got me.

    Sometimes I'm far too literal, other times far too abstract, sorry again.
     
  17. EinmalImmerEwig

    EinmalImmerEwig Only Wants British Players At Arsenal

    I had a "may" and a "very possible"
     
  18. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    I doubt there is an Arsenal fan anywhere who wants Kroenke as owner. I thought the fact I said I HATE to defend the owners made my stance clear. My point was we have had money to spend and we've spent it badly, that was a response to people saying Kroenke doesnt give us money to spend.
     
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  19. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    There’s yet to be a message from a Kroenke congratulating the team and manager.
    It’s what one should expect.
     
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  20. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    I doubt he knew we were playing.
     

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