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Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by American_Gooner, Mar 4, 2020.

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Would you be happy with the Willian signing?

  1. Yes, for any contract length

    27.4%
  2. Yes, but only on a 2 year deal

    43.3%
  3. No, not under any circumstances

    29.3%
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  1. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan

    I am not too happy with this transfer, but it seems we're putting money towards CM and CB.
     
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  2. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    Yeah but his wages are not going to be 100k per week. You have to count signing on bonus when free transfers are taken into consideration. In the end, he will have higher wages than he had at Chelsea and that is a simple truth!
     
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  3. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    He will be on close to 200k per week after you count in signing on bonuses for him.

    He would never leave Chelsea for us unless he is getting something massive from it.
     
  4. FinnGooner

    FinnGooner Well-Known Member

    One extra year even with the pay cut is >2 million. I'd call that massive. Not saying there aren't bonuses, of course there are some but for a player at his age one extra year is massive for security especially considering the times we live in.
     
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  5. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Al Jazeera Correspondent

    2 years at Chelsea at 130k a week - £12.5M.

    3 years at Arsenal at 100k a week not including any signing on fee he will get - £14.4M.

    So he will earn more wage wise but also probs have a 2-6M signing on fee included. Either way Willian for 3 years at £15-20M is brilliant for the club. This season coming he will still be at his best, season after may start declining and his final year he will probably just be useful off the bench.

    Either way when you look at those numbers over 3 years its good business. We need CL football to pick ourselves back up financially.
     
  6. senna

    senna Well-Known Member

    are signing on bonuses not part of every contract? Even when they move for a fee or renew with existing team?

    I agree Willian isnt going to sign for us without it being a favourable deal for him, but if you were an older footballer i would totally take the longer contract deal for bit less money. If stadiums are gonna remain closed or there is another suspension then lots of contracts are going to be coming down. Now its upto arsenal to to work out on his physical condition and whether he is capable of playing at a high level for 3 or 4 years, hopefully unlike the Özil situation they make the right call.
     
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  7. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    He's getting an additional year from us maybe 2, that's pretty massive for a player who is 32. I think its good business, focus on CB and Partey.
     
  8. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado

    If ESPN correct sounds like a good deal all round. Better option than Coutinho.
     
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  9. TromsoGooner

    TromsoGooner Well-Known Member

    I`m pretty sure he will be a very good player for the next two seasons. Worst case he will be of little use in his last year but on 100K a week it won`t be close to the situation we have with Özil now. He has a fantastic injury record, works very hard and is generally a very talented footballer that is extremly comfortable on the ball.
     
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  10. Trofton

    Trofton Active Member

    He ended the season in fine form as well I really like him he’s a committed player who always gives 100% on the pitch something arsenal struggle with Sometimes
     
  11. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One

    Heard Arteta is already thinking about benching him mid season so we don't have to pay the appearance bonuses of his wage to Kia.
     
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  12. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One

    Need to see the signing on fee and the performance clauses more than anything, but the fact that he's willing to earn less then Kolasinac while also being 134 times the footballer makes this more palatable.
     
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  13. SingmeasongSong

    SingmeasongSong Rarely Right

    Hearing Arteta has been made a redundancy due to his reluctance to sign Kia's pal Kurzawa.
     
  14. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    I'm really happy for this signature. We can't afford to spend much on this position but we clearly needed reinforcement.

    Willian isn't washed at all. He's still among the best offensive player at Chelsea and in the league (6th in chances created this season), he works hard on both end of the pitch. Never injured.

    If we manage to sign Gabriel and partey alongside him, then I'd say it's a fantastic piece of business, when you take into account the context we're in.
    By the end of his contract saka should be more mature and maybe Nelson too. So the timing is good too.
     
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  15. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    Does Kia have a CB and Partey on his books?
     
  16. say yes

    say yes To Sweet Soulful Vinai

    Never been one of the usual suspects crying about Kia’s involvement in the club, but I wasn’t happy with this signing originally and it genuinely makes me a bit sick to think we’re pushing ahead this after sacking our entire scouting team. And after giving Cedric a four year deal as well.

    Grim. Proof will be in the pudding, but our dealings stink and have ruined my excitement for this transfer window.
     
  17. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Weirdos speculating on how many add ons and bonuses might be included in this deal as if signing on bonuses never existed before this contract. Another way of looking at it might be Saka tied down for 5 years, plus Willian signed for what it would have cost us to keep Mkhi.

    Edit - Saka might not be worth it if he received a sign on fee and has appearance bonuses etc.
     
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  18. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Me too i'm not really happy about the contract length even with less wages but seem we targeting to spend more money on CM And CB.
     
  19. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado

    Sounded like Gabriel was changing agents a few weeks ago... think they were hinting Kia. 4m13s

     
  20. Idiotologue

    Idiotologue Well-Known Member

    Just too unreliable. In addition to nonsensical assists like the ones posted, you also have things like own goals or slight interceptions ruining assists. An example that comes to mind is the City-Liverpool game that ended 4-0 where Kevin De Bruyne put Raheem Sterling on goal with a pass but it didn't count as an assist because Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain ended up putting Sterling's shot into the net.
     
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