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Morten Gamst Pedersen
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USArsenal
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see, the way i see it is that Arsène would pay the TRUE market value of a player, not the over-inflated reactionary Market Prices...qs said:brianfrance said:
What Arsène would pay and whats market value aren't exactly the same thing
Glovegun
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I browsed a Rovers forum and they seem to think that if its pace and width we're looking for, Pedersen isnt the solution:
"Doubt he's after Pedersen for pace"
Either way Im not such a huge fan tbh. Scores the odd wonder goal but thats not the best yardstick of measuring players. Giles Barnes looks a quality winger. Very talented kid.
"Doubt he's after Pedersen for pace"
Either way Im not such a huge fan tbh. Scores the odd wonder goal but thats not the best yardstick of measuring players. Giles Barnes looks a quality winger. Very talented kid.
asajoseph
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There is no "points:skill ratio manual that mangers can use" - and each player available for sale only has one market value.
Simple supply and demand, really...
Simple supply and demand, really...
number_0
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I am 99% sure that he isnt going tp sign for us. period.
and Sp**s will remain Sp**s.
their simple hypthisis is:
spend more=more success.
i am sure jol has this painted in the ceiling on top his bed so he doesnt forget
and Sp**s will remain Sp**s.
their simple hypthisis is:
spend more=more success.
i am sure jol has this painted in the ceiling on top his bed so he doesnt forget
USArsenal
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Wenger has a degree in Economics... im sure he realizes what supply and demand are... point is, Gamst's "demand" is apparently not all that high... which is why Wenger would never pay over the odds for him... he's decent, but not really what we need, and its not like you can look at his "potential" and pay more for it since he has pretty much reached it already... he's no spring chicken... (in terms of Wenger's usual signings)asajoseph said:
asajoseph
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Demand for Pedersen may not be high, but there are a lot of controls over the supply - namely, there's only one of him, and Blackburn own his contract.
Blackburn will have a sell price, and Arsenal will have a buy price - if they can't make the two match, there will be no sale, and a market will not have been made. Just because Arsène doesn't want to pay over a certain amount for a player, doesn't mean that he's got his 'market' price right, it just means that he doesn't value his utility to Arsenal highly enough - and that's not the same thing.
Anyhoo, I agree - Wenger won't be paying more than £8m for Pedersen. In fact, I don't even think Wenger would have paid that much for him in the first place.
Blackburn will have a sell price, and Arsenal will have a buy price - if they can't make the two match, there will be no sale, and a market will not have been made. Just because Arsène doesn't want to pay over a certain amount for a player, doesn't mean that he's got his 'market' price right, it just means that he doesn't value his utility to Arsenal highly enough - and that's not the same thing.
Anyhoo, I agree - Wenger won't be paying more than £8m for Pedersen. In fact, I don't even think Wenger would have paid that much for him in the first place.
Asterix
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You know we're bored in the transfer window when we start debating economics.....
goonerwarsh
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Talking of wingers that we don't need, before he signed for Chelsea it was general consensus on here that Malouda was a consistent but unspectacular performer who wouldn't improve our side.
From what I have seen of him in a Chelsea shirt that looks about as far from the truth as possible. He's direct, built like a brick **** house and can finish. He would have been perfect for us
From what I have seen of him in a Chelsea shirt that looks about as far from the truth as possible. He's direct, built like a brick **** house and can finish. He would have been perfect for us
USArsenal
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to me, we're saying the same thing in different terms... it means Wenger's market value is not the same as BB's market value... because his value of the player gives him his own "market value"... BB's market value will always be higher to start with than Wenger's, since they of course want to get the most money for him....asajoseph said:
i think we're just using the term "market value" in different ways... in the end, his market value will be what he ends up being sold at... if he is not sold at BB's asking price, his market value is lower...
but we all (most) agree that there is no way he will over-pay for him.. TBH, i dont think he is even actually looking at him...
USArsenal
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LOL, yeah.. this is what happens when WE ARENT SIGNING ANYONE...Asterix said:
ugh
asajoseph
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Player:Tomiyasu
just saw that too, pedersen comfirming we bid for him.
but then, Arsène said we hadnt. i hope for the former.
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?this ... r+Pedersen
meanwhile, soccerblog says we are in for sissoko, utter bullshit.
but then, Arsène said we hadnt. i hope for the former.
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?this ... r+Pedersen
meanwhile, soccerblog says we are in for sissoko, utter bullshit.
Bobo D. Clown
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It's not Slomo of Liverpool it's Moussa Sissoko, 17 year old who plays for Toulouse.
And after Diaby, Song , Clichy, Traore etc why not go back to France for the talent, Song is the only dud out of that lot.
And I'd like Gamst for the squad depth but it smells of his agent telling fibs to get a new contract.
And after Diaby, Song , Clichy, Traore etc why not go back to France for the talent, Song is the only dud out of that lot.
And I'd like Gamst for the squad depth but it smells of his agent telling fibs to get a new contract.
USArsenal
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that's exactly what i think of too... i dont know why they do that, since any formal bid will have to go through the club, so they would know whether or not there was real interest.... agents really need to shaddupBobo D. Clown said:
Bobo D. Clown
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It's Rune Hauge, isn't he Sven's agent who convinced him to meet with the News Of The World Sheik. Which proves, he couldn't give a **** about his clients or doing right for their careers if there's money to be had for him.
If say we were in for Ribery and Gamst, maybe Wenger had one meeting with the agents, saw how greedy and scumbaggy they were and passed straight away.
If say we were in for Ribery and Gamst, maybe Wenger had one meeting with the agents, saw how greedy and scumbaggy they were and passed straight away.
jester
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I dont think we'll be buying MGP (its easier to say that), but i still have a lingering hope that we'll dip into the market once more.
MDGoonah41
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A player under contract doesn't really have true market value, because he's not on the open market. His value is the value the club slaps on him. The market did not dictate that Darren Bent was worth £16M, that's the price Charlton put on him, and someone was dumb enough to pay it.
Don Pacifico
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No.8_Wright said:
Just to stir things up a bit, he doesn't say he isn't interested, just that he hasn't bid. 8)
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