EPL | Everton (H) v Arsenal (A) | 13th December 2016 | 19:45 GMT | BT Sport

[Marmaduke]

You know even though today sucked and we conceded 2 goals .... I thought Gabriel had his most convincing game as a CB yet. Not fantastic obviously but I wasn't frustrated watching him.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Wow every player getting abuse. Since when did I become one of the more calm posters?

I'm calm too.

This here was a double fixtures. We still can beat a broken winged City next weekend and come out even from those fixtures.

I will analyze the situation after the City game.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

First full game without Kostafi and we lose. Not blaming Gabriel, but there's something in that I'm sure.

 

[RUS arsenal]

Only thing more embarrassing than that performance is bullshit posts like this.

Honestly, if Chelsea win tomorrow we have a better chance at winning the CL than the PL...

 

[STYLEZ]

Gotta love all the posts about how they knew beforehand that this and that player would be terrible yet didn't point it out before the game. Everyone's a genious in hindsight

Lol.

Or how nobody will simply give credit to Everton for Beaten us.

Instead Özil was ****, And we applied no pressure to their flank players.

 

[Rocky]

I'm really surprised at the total lack of rotation. I knew the changes I wanted wouldn't happen, but I felt sure that Gibbs would get a game.

A great opportunity to give minutes to Gibbs, Lucas, Elneny, Iwobi not taken and nothing to show for it.

I honestly think it is time for an end to this management of fear where rotation is such a feared concept. Just leaves players on the bench itching for a game and not getting enough game time, and first 11 players having dips in form.

 

[Batman]

No excuses for losing to that lot, they are horrible. Not good enough, Özil needs to sort it out especially. Brilliant goals here and there don't make up for easy missed chances, just ask this board about Giroud doing the same.

We have to have a bit of honesty about Özil who I do absolutely love. The goals have masked the fact that his overall influence on the game has been very little this year especially compared to last. What has he got 1 assist nearly halfway through the season? He's just not having the overall impact on the match that he's had in the past. When is the last time he even created a clear chance? I can't actually remember. Overall the team has been much better until today so that of course covers a multitude of sins but he's had quite a few listless performances like this so far.

 

[BaZZe]

What posters are you talking about?

Not going to mention anyone specifically

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

He was sh!t imo. ****ing laboured oaf.

Disgrace.

 

[Marmaduke]

First full game without Kostafi and we lose. Not blaming Gabriel, but there's something in that I'm sure.

Gabs was not too bad, although I rate Mustafi more.

Everton went full ***** this game.

 

[MaraDon]

First full game without Kostafi and we lose. Not blaming Gabriel, but there's something in that I'm sure.

of course there is, we are against a manager that has our number and we are without our CB paring, we should have gone with a more conservative set up.

 

[Xhaka Zulu]

Guess they wanted to learn the hard way that you can't just go to cruise mode only 1-0 up in the 25th minute....

I doubt they've learned though.

 

[A_G]

Honestly, if Chelsea win tomorrow we have a better chance at winning the CL than the PL...

6 points in mid-December is nothing. Chelsea aren't going to run away with it, despite the recent hype.

 

[razörist]

he is not injured, he is leaving in january.

wenger lies you know.

You are crazy sometimes. Only thing Wenger is lying about is the duration of his injury.

 

[Hunta]

Everton will bend over for Liverpool on Monday, they always do.

 

[MaraDon]

move the page quickly, prepare to fist **** Pep and go back to winning habits.

we are still favorites for the title, we have the best team in England.

 

[ArtetaCognition]

WTF****

Maybe a little forceful but that was an incredibly frustrating one to be fair.

Let's be honest though: these same managers consistently pull results against us no matter what team they are at.
These same players play well against us no matter what team they are at. Williams scoring headers against us etc.

Do they just coincidentally catch us on bad days every time? Or do they have our number tactically? Is the consistent headed goals against us a coincident or poor defensive organisation?

I accept a more moderate opinion and perhaps admit I went overboard there... but let's be real about things, there are very clear issues season after season that cause us titles and they seem to persist regardless of our personnel. It's about time we look at the one constant, no?

 

[Penn_]

Was Alexis penalty shout at the end actually legit?

 

[BaZZe]

Lol.

Or how nobody will simply give credit to Everton for Beaten us.

Instead Özil was ****, And we applied no pressure to their flank players.

Typical how they show up with a fight against us just watch them roll over for our rivals...

 

[MaraDon]

You are crazy sometimes. Only thing Wenger is lying about is the duration of his injury.

ok.
lets see how january develops.

just bench Özil for a couple of games, lets try something different.