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And everyone else knows it too. The key to winning against City must be to man mark their arses.But now that we know this secret, do we still need Arteta.
And everyone else knows it too. The key to winning against City must be to man mark their arses.But now that we know this secret, do we still need Arteta.
I still can’t believe that in Saturday I saw a game where Laca and Auba were playing wide for parts of the game. Arsenal football club under Emery basically had a game where they didn’t play with a striker.
It’s shameful that he felt that LCFC were that superior that he turned up with us imitating Stoke.
I still can’t believe that in Saturday I saw a game where Laca and Auba were playing wide for parts of the game. Arsenal football club under Emery basically had a game where they didn’t play with a striker.
It’s shameful that he felt that LCFC were that superior that he turned up with us imitating Stoke.
& there are some who are defending this clueless, coward managerThey played as defensive wingers while Özil was some kind of false 9. Messy.
They played as defensive wingers while Özil was some kind of false 9. Messy.
It's the latest trend. Manager ****s up? Blame the fans. Players **** up? Blame the fans. Going to lose a good player? Blame AFTV.I almost can't put into words how depressed this club makes me. It's not Arsenal anymore. We have a bunch of malignancies in kits and suits wearing our badge and setting up shop in the stadium and training ground but there's nothing Arsenal about them. The one player we do have who is world class in spite of everything and consistently does his job is now being smeared in the press by some coward at the club who can gossip to Ornstein and stir up trouble over nothing but isn't man enough to attach his name to it. What the f*ck happened to us?
We have a flawed but talented squad that should be doing better and instead of removing the obvious impediment they choose to come out in support of it while throwing the lifeblood of the club under the bus. Where do they think all of the merchandise and ticket sales come from. Who do they think watches the matches that enable the massive tv deals? And yet people who love the club and want it to be the proud club that it has always been historically are treated like garbage and told that they are the reason the pampered millionaires can't complete 5 yard passes to each other. They're the reason the manager is unintelligible. They're the reason that nobody displays any fight whatsoever. It's a joke. Now inevitably when our more talented and consistent players do get fed up and refuse to extend, the **** running the club tries to do a hatchet job on them in the press to deflect blame. That's not Arsenal, or at least it shouldn't be.
What's most damning of all is that the worst displays are always away from home where there can be absolutely no criticism of the away support at all. They are comfortably the most loyal and dedicated traveling fans in the league. They all too often make a long and expensive trip only to be let down and yet even on tv you can hear them singing their hearts out and trying to help the team along week after week. Those people are part of a "toxic" atmosphere? Do me a favor. What's toxic is being so pigheaded and arrogant that you have to scapegoat people for your own mistakes. Emery is playing the same dreadful football that has seen him overstay his welcome at PSG and yet the club would have us believe that our eyes deceive us and we're too stupid to understand some kind of elitist genius that is on display. It's repulsive. I feel so incredibly sorry for how badly I wanted Wenger to leave. It's quite clear now that his knuckles were turning white keeping the gates of hell from bursting open for years and I didn't appreciate it. I don't know where we go from here.
Totally agree with this. This is the way.If you're not happy with the situation, then it's simple. Stop spending your money, your time & your energy for the club.
Don't go to the Emirates. Let it get empty. It will tank their ticket revenue and make the club look bad on national TV. Fans and the atmosphere they bring is a part of the show that networks pay insane amount of £ to broadcast it on TV.
Don't watch games on TV. It will tank their ratings, it will hurt their business.
Yep. The fans have proved in the past two years that they have the appetite to force change, no matter how ugly.The fans will start voting with their feet, if they haven't already started. You can't mug them forever. Wenger couldn't do it, so this bloke hasn't got ****ing prayer.
Don't know how people seem to be forgetting this tbh. They can release all the statements they want about getting behind the team in times of trouble etc, but it means **** allYep. The fans have proved in the past two years that they have the appetite to force change, no matter how ugly.
Defensively you can argue it’s not good but the fact we are so limp going forward with the likes of Auba, Laca, Pepe, Özil, etc as well as fullbacks who are good in attack is damning.The squad isnt that bad tbh this is what annoys me.
Defensively you can argue it’s not good but the fact we are so limp going forward with the likes of Auba, Laca, Pepe, Özil, etc as well as fullbacks who are good in attack is damning.
I don't even think our defenders and midfielders are that bad just not being used properly. Torreira playing as an attacking midfielder and Sokratis being asked to play tika taka out of defence just off the top of my head, I'm sure I could think of many others with a bit more time.
Add in the constant changing of tactics, formation and starting XI and it's pretty obvious why we are doing so badly. At this point in time my I would settle for the following for a decent run of games.
Roughly the same XI players
Everyone playing in their favoured positions
Instructions for players to stick to what they are good at
A set formation
I feel we've been saying something of this nature for over a decade now. Truth is these players we have aren't good enough for where we need to be.
Standards have dropped at this club to a place where average is good enough and journeyman players who wouldn't have sniffed a starting place in 2008 let alone in 2004 are being hailed as great players. This is despite game after game of the same mistakes and failures.
Yes players are played out of position, but most of them don't have it in them to go up three or four levels.
The next manager will have to do a clearout in my opinion.
I'm not that much referring to Unai being up to the task, like I said, I want Arteta, and I want him now. Yet, all the things he talks about besides this are just absolutely true - a big chunk of the damage to Arsenal is due to the toxic fans and atmosphere all around ever since Wenger's 1-2 final years.
I don't understand this logic at all.
There are much better ways to send a message to the club than creating a toxic atmosphere. For everybody. Fans, players, the board.
If you're not happy with the situation, then it's simple. Stop spending your money, your time & your energy for the club.
Don't go to the Emirates. Let it get empty. It will tank their ticket revenue and make the club look bad on national TV. Fans and the atmosphere they bring is a part of the show that networks pay insane amount of £ to broadcast it on TV.
Don't watch games on TV. It will tank their ratings, it will hurt their business.
The club would be dead without its fanbase. You can't find any other way to hurt them more & send a message.
Creating a toxic atmosphere doesn't hurt them as much because they're still backing them financially. But it makes much more collateral damage imo.
Wenger is gone and the atmo wasn't toxic before Emery started to mess it up longterm. Can I understand Stuttgart fans who want the managers head after 3.5 months, a squad overturn, a 3rd place in the league but some bad results in the last few weeks? No. But can I understand fans turning on a manager after 1.5 seasons turning Arsenal into a turd team with no horizon of hope of hope? Yes. That is all. The toxic atmo stuff is bollocks or better yet it is what it is because what is happening on the pitch. Fans have all the right to complain right now and it's not because it is Wenger toxic, but because the team is **** cause of Emery and because Wenger was fired for that and the guy to come after him has actually managed to make the team worse.
Food for thought for the Arteta inners and outers.