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How many points did we get in 2013? Whats our max if we win every single game left... 64 if we go undefeated ... what will we really get.. not having looked at the schedule.. 54 pts
We can max get to 64 points (Not happening). We got 73 in 2013, 79 the season after that.How many points did we get in 2013? Whats our max if we win every single game left...
My Maths was way off, we can max get 24 point so we can only get to 64, so we're finishing 9 points behind even if we win everything which is unlikelyRight... Were gonna be more than 10 points off 2013. I would say 10 points is a large margin. The league winner this year is going to be well over 100 pts.. that's also a large margin from 50 something
Right. Which of our players would get into United and Chelsea's teams? I'll give you Spuds because I can't wait to see Jose sacked either
Let's do a side by side comparison then for United and Chelsea. For Chelsea, remember that Ziyech, Werner are coming in next season too.What do you mean? Many of our current players would start at those teams. If we were 15-20 points behind I'd agree with you but the gap isn't that great
The issue is that even last season wasn't that great. We were insanely lucky for large stretches of that seasonI do honestly think we have a good manager that wants to build the right culture and that takes time. He's come in at a dreadful time but let's not forget that this squad reached 70 pts last season and most of the bones are here this season.
The thing is we have a manager who is completely unproven. We have a squad that from watching can't really create or defend. Unless we can spend a lot this summer, I think we're in for 9th place next year.We're declining but I think people are being a bit overly dramatic.
I do honestly think we have a good manager that wants to build the right culture and that takes time. He's come in at a dreadful time but let's not forget that this squad reached 70 pts last season and most of the bones are here this season.
Things can change quickly in football and so can our outlook so let's wait for a bit of time before making declarations of doom.
That said I am very worried about the higher ups, specifically Raul and Edu, and this whole deal with agents, but I doubt that their heads will roll soon and I suppose let's see how they deal with this summer, Saka and Auba.
The sad fact is that this is probably true. Of all our midfielders, Xhaka is the least limited, and that is a frightening thought.the fact that there are people on this board who will argue that Granit Xhaka is our best midfielder just shows you how the decline is worryingly close to free-fall
The issue is that even last season wasn't that great. We were insanely lucky for large stretches of that season
In the game that mattered, we were outclassed 4-1.
Let's do a side by side comparison then for United and Chelsea. For Chelsea, remember that Ziyech, Werner are coming in next season too.
I'll do United, you can take Chelsea
Goalkeeper, I'd take Leno over De Gea
I'd take AWB over Bellerin
I'd take Lindelof and Maguire over any of ours
I'd take Tierney over Shaw, if he's fit. But that's a huge if.
I'd take their entire midfield over ours
I'd take Auba over Martial/Rashford/Ighalo at striker.
I'd take Saka over Rashford who they play LW, but I can't say hand over heart that he's better right now
I'd take Pepe over their RW options.
So 4 players of ours that might get into a team that they'll strengthen on exactly those positions next season.
We say this every year and every year it gets worseThis summer will decide the direction we are headed for the next few years..