BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
The hate for Xhaka is irrational, just because he told you lot to F off and you’re taking it personally. Xhaka is top 3 players in our squad.
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Granit Xhaka: 2019/20 Performances
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Gooner1988TK
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WE ARE TENTH!! The squad is awful so saying he’s a top 3 player in the worst Arsenal side for 25 years at least is nothing to brag about.
let me ask you a question sir! Are Burnley’s best 3 players quality players because they’re the 3 best in a average side? No they’re garbage just like Xhaka and nothing to brag about!
GDeep™
League is very weak
Arteta said he wanted Xhaka at City, so he isn’t going anywhere.
The same people slagging off Xhaka on the previous page are Lucas Torreira gaggers, go figure. One of the worst midfielders we’ve ever had, and he was expensive.
RacingPhoton
Established Member
Who are the other 2 in your opinion? Among regular starters this season, only Auba can call himself top player. And Saka too if he can prove to be consistent. Rest of the team has been garbage.
Ash10
Chairman of the Bum Brigade
Unlike you other people can judge players solely on their performances on the pitch & not worry about their booty size or whatever you go on about all the time
Big Weng 4 LYF bby
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Of course it's hyperbole lol. However Xhaka has been a mainstay in our team while we've dropped from a pirenial top 4 CL side, to a 6th place team, and now to mid table. This guy is in the spine of our squad and we've upgraded countless other areas of the pitch but this dood is a traffic cone. You don't have to be a tactical genius to see that in the time Xhaka has been the anchor in our midfield we've turned from a side who controlled matches to a side who gets pinned back in our own half and regularly allows more shots and shots on goal to sides like Wolves/Leicester/Villa. Teams who've invested paltry sums into their squads compared to us. Is that part to do with tactics? Yeah partly but because of the lack of mobility in midfield it's kind of a necessity unfortunately.
The one match where we've really dominated was against Brighton when we had Willock - Ceb - Guendo. Mobile midfielders who can be combative because they are able to recover when a player goes past them. Still a lack of creativity but a better option imo.
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Xhaka might very well be our best midfielder, but this is the worst midfield arsenal has fielded in years yet Xhaka apologists claim it as some sort of evidence of his quality.
As I've said before we as fans deserve this mediocrity with the way we big up past-it and bums like Özil and Xhaka respectively. When you see some fans calling Xhaka 'elite' yet he's the 'lynchpin' in our worst ever midfield.
If you say Xhaka is a top three player at Arsenal, then Chris Wood should be starting for us, seeing that he's a top 3 player for Burnley who are above us.
Harry winks and sissoko has been Sp**s best midfielders this season but they're ****e. We should bring in players that will displace him from the Starting XI not bring in players to complement him. That's has been one of our biggest undoing in the past few years. We don't upgrade our average players. They get comfortable and some of our fans hype them up and call them one of the best in the league.
You could argue my point all you want but one thing is indisputable, our midfield started going South from 2016/2017.
We all know what happened that summer
As I've said before we as fans deserve this mediocrity with the way we big up past-it and bums like Özil and Xhaka respectively. When you see some fans calling Xhaka 'elite' yet he's the 'lynchpin' in our worst ever midfield.
If you say Xhaka is a top three player at Arsenal, then Chris Wood should be starting for us, seeing that he's a top 3 player for Burnley who are above us.
Harry winks and sissoko has been Sp**s best midfielders this season but they're ****e. We should bring in players that will displace him from the Starting XI not bring in players to complement him. That's has been one of our biggest undoing in the past few years. We don't upgrade our average players. They get comfortable and some of our fans hype them up and call them one of the best in the league.
You could argue my point all you want but one thing is indisputable, our midfield started going South from 2016/2017.
We all know what happened that summer
Ash10
Chairman of the Bum Brigade
Oh no you're being a Torreira gagger.... next time bump the Özil thread after we lose to cry on about how he would've saved the day or just say how others are fascinated with Lacazette's butt
Otherwise you'll forever remain a Torreira gagger
Manberg
Predator
That's not a healthy way of looking at things. It's possible that a player of the quality of Messi could be playing for a relegation side you know.
BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
Make one positive comment on Xhaka and look how it sets you lot off. Shows most of you hate him not for football reasons but because he told you to F off and you have to watch him boss the midfield every week.
There’s like 6 players we need to get rid of before even thinking about changing Xhaka.
There’s like 6 players we need to get rid of before even thinking about changing Xhaka.
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CaseUteinberger
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Was waiting for someone to bring up Messi in the Xhaka thread. :trophy:
The argument you are bringing and the way you try to bring it should give you pause. What are you trying to say? That Xhaka doesn't have anything to do with our league position? He has been playing a lot of games so he at least has to shoulder some blame, doesn't he? Or are you implying that while he has brought the goods (similar to a Messi on a **** team), others around him have let the side down?
Love this thread: Messi, Kroos, Pirlo, and Alonso mentioned in the same breath as Xhaka. **** me! You guys are totally bonkers!
lomekian
Essays are my thing
Dejan Lovren is a good top flight defender, just not good enough to be first choice for an elite or close to elite team, as has been shown over recent seasons. A bit like Xhaka in midfield.
You seriously telling me I'm 'better than that' because I'm using Xhaka's career to refute some eejit saying his only good enough for the Championship?
Unless you believe the same, in which case there is no point in conversing.
Shalmaneser V
Active Member
Boss the midfield.
It’s partly because of his bossing of the midfield that we’ve failed to make champions league in his time here and currently languishing in 10th.
Look Xhaka isn’t as bad as some of the fan base make out. But let’s not pretend he’s been carrying the midfield and producing week in week out.
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lomekian
Essays are my thing
My primary point is the team deteriorating seems so often directed at Xhaka, when a far bigger factor is a turnover of 2/3 of the squad with all but centre forward being replaced with inferior or less effective replacements.
Is he going to be the main midfielder in a title race? Only if our attack, defence and flanks are stupendously good, and even then its unlikely. But blaming 1 very competent but flawed midfielder for a worse squad performing worse just isn't useful to anyone (especially when in 2/3 of the game him and his partner are outnumbered in midfield).
And talking about dominating midfield in his absence citing a game where we played like rubbish and lost to a team at that point in a relegation battle is a pretty weak argument.
Of course he is our worst No1 midfielder since Vieira arrived. Vieira, Fabregas & Santi were special special talents, and Xhaka's just a good player, not a great. But as things stand he's our most important midfielder, so I'd rather support him until we can upgrade 2 or 3 midfielders and make him expendable, rather than constantly *****ing about him not being good enough. Lets face it, to win the league almost none of our players are good enough
Ash10
Chairman of the Bum Brigade
When we are on a good run it’s because Xhaka's in the team but apparently our league position has absolutely nothing do with him:rofl:
Brought down every great player you could think of while defending a player playing for the 10th team in the league, a team that's having it’s worst season in 25 frickin years. But somehow he plays almost every game but he is not at all at fault:rofl:
He's also 'bossing' the midfield, you wouldn’t know it while watching us play though. Every decent team runs through us, against good teams he plays as the 4th CB to block shots & camp near our penalty box. But that's called 'bossing' the midfield don't you know?
I'm not saying he's a championship midfielder, I'm not even saying he's a relegation fodder midfielder. But what he is is not an Arsenal quality midfielder & there's nothing wrong with that, being a mid-table player is not a bad thing. Saying he's not gonna be sold doesn’t really mean much aside from how we bad are atm
Over hyping a player to this extent is just sad really
Brought down every great player you could think of while defending a player playing for the 10th team in the league, a team that's having it’s worst season in 25 frickin years. But somehow he plays almost every game but he is not at all at fault:rofl:
He's also 'bossing' the midfield, you wouldn’t know it while watching us play though. Every decent team runs through us, against good teams he plays as the 4th CB to block shots & camp near our penalty box. But that's called 'bossing' the midfield don't you know?
I'm not saying he's a championship midfielder, I'm not even saying he's a relegation fodder midfielder. But what he is is not an Arsenal quality midfielder & there's nothing wrong with that, being a mid-table player is not a bad thing. Saying he's not gonna be sold doesn’t really mean much aside from how we bad are atm
Over hyping a player to this extent is just sad really
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BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
"Bossing the midfield"
feck me!
I'll just assume you were trolling
You definitely wake up in the morning thinking about me
Country: Nigeria
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Says the guy who's obsessed with Laca's butt.
Carry on defending Xhaka. You and I both know you don't rate him. You just pretend to just to piss off those of who know Xhaka is gash
Manberg
Predator
When we are on a good run it’s because Xhaka's in the team but apparently our league position has absolutely nothing do with him:rofl:
Brought down every great player you could think of while defending a player playing for the 10th team in the league, a team that's having it’s worst season in 25 frickin years. But somehow he plays almost every game but he is not at all at fault:rofl:
He's also 'bossing' the midfield, you wouldn’t know it while watching us play though. Every decent team runs through us, against good teams he plays as the 4th CB to block shots & camp near our penalty box. But that's called 'bossing' the midfield don't you know?
I'm not saying he's a championship midfielder, I'm not even saying he's a relegation fodder midfielder. But what he is is not an Arsenal quality midfielder & there's nothing wrong with that, being a mid-table player is not a bad thing. Saying he's not gonna be sold doesn’t really mean much aside from how we bad are atm
Over hyping a player to this extent is just sad really
Getting in to the box and covering as a centreback is part of his job. It’s not easy either. You’re criticising Xhaka for doing his job well. But you miss the other things he does well. Dictates tempo, switching play, cycles possession, and a lot more. The other parts of his role as a DLP.
BigPoppaPump
Reeling from Laca & Kos nightmares
Says the guy who's obsessed with Laca's butt.
Carry on defending Xhaka. You and I both know you don't rate him. You just pretend to just to piss off those of who know Xhaka is gash
Little bit of column A little bit of column B. Xhaka haters always over the top with the hate, you never see them have the same energy for absolute bums like Torreira and Lacazette.
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