📢 Rumour Bruno Guimarães

[jaystewart]

Had to check, and my hunch was right.

Any comments about you saying Rice is not top top quality, and that 75 million for him is taking the piss while suggesting his price was due to English tax?

Declan Rice

lol it’s clear that you’re the only one discriminating people based on the ‘colour of their passport’. You’re rating anyone but English players basically. Telling me kiddies who play in the Eredivisie are better than Rice? Lol… It is well known English players go for inflated fees. Also, if...

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Declan Rice

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I don't understand what you're getting at

 

[LookingForEric]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783894341041246439

Over 5 years? Not one lump sum? I’d be more interested now. Still think he’s not the right profile, especially for £100M total,

 

[OnlyOne]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783894341041246439

Over 5 years? Not one lump sum? I’d be more interested now. Still think he’s not the right profile, especially for £100M total,

No ones going to pay this. Clubs will just wait and negotiate for something realistic like 80M. Their FFP issues don’t go away and Bruno is one asset they can sell for a good sum.

 

[LookingForEric]

No ones going to pay this. Clubs will just wait and negotiate for something realistic like 80M. Their FFP issues don’t go away and Bruno is one asset they can sell for a good sum.

£80M but they’ll ask for more up front. I still don’t think he’s worth even £80M, but I could see a club going in with £100M over 5 years.

 

[db10_therza]

No ones going to pay this. Clubs will just wait and negotiate for something realistic like 80M. Their FFP issues don’t go away and Bruno is one asset they can sell for a good sum.

I can see Qatar paying Saudi 100M to cement the recent strengthening of their relationship.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

100M over 5 years period is not big amount for rich clubs 20M a year. but clubs will wait until his release clause ends so they can get him cheaper and pay good money upfront to convince newcastle.

 

[carter777]

The article doesn't imply you can pay Newcastle over 5 years but how the buying club records it.

"And, while anyone buying Guimaraes could amortise the £100million cost over five years — meaning it could be spread over the length of a contract and would only go down as a £20m annual fee — it still represents a massive financial outlay, even given how highly the Brazil international is rated."

Isn't this just the same way any transfer is recorded by the buying team for the purpose of PSR?

 

[Sapient Hawk]

You can get De Jong for 100m, pass.

De Jong he might be, but his ankle's a bit long in the tooth.

Barca can keep him along with his inflated wages.

 

[HaffBR]

He is better than Rice and probably the best midfielder Arsenal can buy. He is that good. Strong creativity, work rate and technical ability.

 

[db10_therza]

He is better than Rice and probably the best midfielder Arsenal can buy. He is that good. Strong creativity, work rate and technical ability.

 

[CannonBals]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783894341041246439

Over 5 years? Not one lump sum? I’d be more interested now. Still think he’s not the right profile, especially for £100M total,

Just read the actual article, it talks about amortization and not payment structure.
This Hagn guy as usual is utter crap. Doesn't know what's he is talking about and is wannabe journalist.

 

[Sebastes]

Bruno isn't a player you move Rice for, he's not that good.

Not so much about who’s best at which position. More so what benefits the team/system most. Arteta has literally moved Rice for Jorginho because of this

 

[OnlyOne]

Not so much about who’s best at which position. More so what benefits the team/system most. Arteta has literally moved Rice for Jorginho because of this

Has he? Or has he moved Kai which moved Rice which meant Jorginho came in?

 

[CannonBals]

Bruno isn't a player you move Rice for, he's not that good.

My read is its the other way around.
Because we want to move Rice to LCM, we are targeting Bruno.

 

[Sulosky]

 

[OnlyOne]

My read is its the other way around.
Because we want to move Rice to LCM, we are targeting Bruno.

It’s not how I see it because Bruno doesn’t have any elite qualities like Partey who can move Rice 8.

You’d basically have two players who aren’t focusing on their core strengths.

 

[drippin]

I don't understand what you're getting at

That your estimation of player level, or current market values, might not be the most accurate & might need adjusting?

 

[drippin]

My read is its the other way around.
Because we want to move Rice to LCM, we are targeting Bruno.

The main plan was always Partey as DMF, Rice as Xhaka durable stamina replacement and Ødegaard for this season. The "power midfield". Rice fits that pressing machine LCM role much better than Guimaraes, like you say. And Bruno that DMF role.

There is no need to think about "moving" anyone. Partey was always going to be replaced, along with Jorginho in the coming years.

The most important thing is to have two great players who are able to play DMF, but also CMF if needed, because of the massive financial outlay. You need to have very good depth in that position. The players have to be versatile mostly, so one can keep using the expensive players with each other.

Bruno fits that DMF role better than Luiz, and Villa is very hard to deal with. They will likely keep Luiz no matter what, even with 2 years left, because they are in Europe next year. So it's very nice that Guimaraes is available. I just hope Arteta can coach the nasty things out of him, and also make him get less yellow cards.

I think Arsenal might be ready to trigger the clause, even if it's a bit of an overprice for him, compared to Rice. Not much better option on the market for the DMF/CMF player, so you want the best option when challenging for trophies.

 

[Sebastes]

Has he? Or has he moved Kai which moved Rice which meant Jorginho came in?

That’s the question. Could be this, could be that, could be a little bit of both. We’ll see come summer I guess

 

[OnlyOne]

That’s the question. Could be this, could be that, could be a little bit of both. We’ll see come summer I guess

We won’t, we’ll only see when there’s a team sheet