thegame24
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Is ade back yet ffs?
Is ade back yet ffs?
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CL: Arsenal vs Dinamo Kiev | 25/11/08
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Not an awesome performance but a lot of positives from the game tonight:
a goal, a win, a clean sheet, still top of the group, Nick gets the goal
and especially morale boosting confidence ahead of sunday's game. And
this after the terrible events of the past week and injuries, the Willie
Gallas show etc.
I'm a happy Gooner once again and not at all bothered at winning a bit
ugly - after all that's how trophies are won... :wink:
Not an awesome performance but a lot of positives from the game tonight:
a goal, a win, a clean sheet, still top of the group, Nick gets the goal
and especially morale boosting confidence ahead of sunday's game. And
this after the terrible events of the past week and injuries, the Willie
Gallas show etc.
I'm a happy Gooner once again and not at all bothered at winning a bit
ugly - after all that's how trophies are won... :wink:
AnthonyG
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Don't know mate. Hope is good to go in the weekend.thegame24 said:
gstew
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
On TV they have been saying that our goal shouldn't count because the ball was moving for us on the free kick. They are absolutely wrong. It was a drop ball, not a free kick. Kiev didn't contest the drop ball because we had possession when the ref stopped play.
Also, I thought it was a hand ball by Nick when watching in real time. But on replay it definitely showed that it was chest and shoulder. Great play.
On TV they have been saying that our goal shouldn't count because the ball was moving for us on the free kick. They are absolutely wrong. It was a drop ball, not a free kick. Kiev didn't contest the drop ball because we had possession when the ref stopped play.
Also, I thought it was a hand ball by Nick when watching in real time. But on replay it definitely showed that it was chest and shoulder. Great play.
clockwork orange
Blind faith in "LVG filoshophy"
Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Great assist & the way he was trying to block out Milevskiy (during that set piece, when the Ukranian got a card) was top notch.
Viva El Capitán!
Thought so too. Really looked like an El Capitán.Invincible said:
Great assist & the way he was trying to block out Milevskiy (during that set piece, when the Ukranian got a card) was top notch.
Viva El Capitán!
ricky1985
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
I really dont understand Wenger. He picks Denilson on the left wing when he knows he can offer nothing from that position. Vela or Wilshere would have been by far the better options. I know why he does it, its his trademark trust 'thing' with his players. Denilson is in his good books and so Wenger feels compelled to pick him.
I feel it is Wenger's greatest strength, because players would give their kidney for him, but also his greatest weakness because he plays players when they shouldnt play, when others deserve it more.
It was definitely no coincidence that Fabregas suddenly upped a gear when Wilshere came on. Finally someone fit to lace el capitans boots, and on a similar wavelength.
Jack enabled Fabregas to pass the ball forward, and then make use of his own brilliant forward movement, to move into dangerous positions. Wilshere can hold the ball all day long (much like Hleb), and always, always plays the right pass (not like Hleb).
I really dont understand Wenger. He picks Denilson on the left wing when he knows he can offer nothing from that position. Vela or Wilshere would have been by far the better options. I know why he does it, its his trademark trust 'thing' with his players. Denilson is in his good books and so Wenger feels compelled to pick him.
I feel it is Wenger's greatest strength, because players would give their kidney for him, but also his greatest weakness because he plays players when they shouldnt play, when others deserve it more.
It was definitely no coincidence that Fabregas suddenly upped a gear when Wilshere came on. Finally someone fit to lace el capitans boots, and on a similar wavelength.
Jack enabled Fabregas to pass the ball forward, and then make use of his own brilliant forward movement, to move into dangerous positions. Wilshere can hold the ball all day long (much like Hleb), and always, always plays the right pass (not like Hleb).
Thommybhoy
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
I think it was a fould but can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure Bendtner didn't touch the ball with his arm as many suggest.
You sure it was a dropped ball?gstew said:
I think it was a fould but can't remember.
And I'm pretty sure Bendtner didn't touch the ball with his arm as many suggest.
Captain
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Denilson played well and was no worse then Nasri has been on the left wing.
Vela was also pretty decent.
Denilson played well and was no worse then Nasri has been on the left wing.
Vela was also pretty decent.
Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Good result with 9 out. Whatever criticism Denilson gets for tonight noone can say he didnt work his hardest for the team. Clichy was immense, Al made a vital save at a time when we seemed to be struggling, Nik finally got his goal and Fabregas was more more influential, while Vela impressed me. Plenty of average play, and a scrappy game - but a win is a win. Would happily win more games ugly if it meant racking up the points
Good result with 9 out. Whatever criticism Denilson gets for tonight noone can say he didnt work his hardest for the team. Clichy was immense, Al made a vital save at a time when we seemed to be struggling, Nik finally got his goal and Fabregas was more more influential, while Vela impressed me. Plenty of average play, and a scrappy game - but a win is a win. Would happily win more games ugly if it meant racking up the points
Ricky_AFC
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Poor performance from the majority but great result. Good game from Cesc - hopefully he is going to carry on in this way now, Jack looked good when he came on and a brilliantly taken goal from Bendtner.
Arsène was spot on with his subs today as well so give him a credit for that.
We need to get some players off the treatment table to stand a chance against chelsea but hopefully this will give a bit of extra confidence.
Poor performance from the majority but great result. Good game from Cesc - hopefully he is going to carry on in this way now, Jack looked good when he came on and a brilliantly taken goal from Bendtner.
Arsène was spot on with his subs today as well so give him a credit for that.
We need to get some players off the treatment table to stand a chance against chelsea but hopefully this will give a bit of extra confidence.
kamikaze80
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
you think so? i thought he hardly ever tracked back when everyone else was. i'd be curious to see his distance covered statistic. either way, he's not covering the right distance cos clichy time and time again was left marking two men on his own onthe left flank, and if kiev were more clever, they wouldve exploited that.AnthonyG said:
ricky1985
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
I thought Denilson ranged from poor on some things, to average on other aspects of his game.
He should never be picked to play anywhere except centre mdifeld. Not defensive midfield. Not left midfield, right midfield or any other kind of midfield. Centre midfield and thats it.
Captain said:
I thought Denilson ranged from poor on some things, to average on other aspects of his game.
He should never be picked to play anywhere except centre mdifeld. Not defensive midfield. Not left midfield, right midfield or any other kind of midfield. Centre midfield and thats it.
DC Gunner
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
it was a drop ball, at 85:10 , we had possession, the ref stopped the match for Djourou's injury.
it was a drop ball, at 85:10 , we had possession, the ref stopped the match for Djourou's injury.
AnthonyG
Arse Emeritus
Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
It wasn't always pretty, effective, or good, but, yeah, I think effort was without question from Denilson today.kamikaze80 said:
ricky1985
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Quite honestlty if Denilson and Song ever become first team starters in our midfield, I really dont know what I'd do.
Quite honestlty if Denilson and Song ever become first team starters in our midfield, I really dont know what I'd do.
True Gooner
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
People expected Denilson to have a stinker the moment they saw him at LM. I think the ones that are slating Denilson already have him down as ****e irrespective of what he actually does on the pitch.
General said:
People expected Denilson to have a stinker the moment they saw him at LM. I think the ones that are slating Denilson already have him down as ****e irrespective of what he actually does on the pitch.
SimplyFabregas
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
What you talking about, Denilson has been a first team starter all season.
ricky1985 said:
What you talking about, Denilson has been a first team starter all season.
oasis_gooner
Active Member
Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
Now that qualification is secured, Wenger's dilemma at Porto would be whether to play the first team or the reserves. Qualifying as runners up could pit us against any one of the likes of Barcelona, Juventus and Inter Milan. Wenger should be looking to win this group and thus send out the right team at Porto to do so.
Now that qualification is secured, Wenger's dilemma at Porto would be whether to play the first team or the reserves. Qualifying as runners up could pit us against any one of the likes of Barcelona, Juventus and Inter Milan. Wenger should be looking to win this group and thus send out the right team at Porto to do so.
ricky1985
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
I mean in the long term. I am praying its only because Wenger couldnt get someone in the summer.
SimplyFabregas said:
I mean in the long term. I am praying its only because Wenger couldnt get someone in the summer.
General
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Re: Arsenal vs FC Dynamo Kyiv, Tuesday Nov 25th 7:45 GMT
In a game like this where there were no outstanding performers and limited options, i find it a little strange that people can still fault him.
I'm not his biggest fan but he did well. Work rate was ok and link up play was good.
Denilson > Song. I'm afraid.
I think Ramsey is overrated to be frank. Jack showed more in the few minutes he came on.
In a game like this where there were no outstanding performers and limited options, i find it a little strange that people can still fault him.
I'm not his biggest fan but he did well. Work rate was ok and link up play was good.
Denilson > Song. I'm afraid.
I think Ramsey is overrated to be frank. Jack showed more in the few minutes he came on.
