EPL: Arsenal v Liverpool- 24/08/15, 20:00. [SS1]

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by Taylor Gang Gunners, Aug 16, 2015.

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  1. Gooner Zig

    Gooner Zig AM's Resident Accountant Trusted

    Theo did nothing when he came on because Liverpool were already parking the bus by that stage! It was a horrible substitution by Wenger to remove Giroud for Theo - he should have kept Giroud on and brought on Theo and hooked Cazorla instead.

    Giroud - Walcott
    Alexis - Özil - Oxlade

    We could have smashed crosses and cut backs into the box at will, instead Walcott gets isolated vs Skertl and Lovren
  2. redwhiteAustrian

    redwhiteAustrian Tu Felix Austria Administrator

    That's what I was saying.....packed and deep defenses aren't the best environment for players like Theo.

    Taking Giroud off for Theo regardless of the type of game, is becoming a bad habit of Wenger recently.
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  3. baccy_man

    baccy_man Active Member

    Watching the game last night i felt that our players got too close together when we got to the Liverpool, 18 yard box a lot of the time they were so close together they didn't have room to pass the ball and create openings,
    We need to spread our players out a bit and give ourselves a bit of space at times we had 5 or 6 players in an area of about 10 to 15 meters.
  4. pikey2000

    pikey2000 Well-Known Member

    Because he wants to give Theo time up top and also wants to be able to say he gave Theo time at CF when he moves him back to RW / gets another CF
  5. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    That was a daft substitute. I was buzzing when I saw Theo coming on, then I saw Giroud's number and I was like huh? It's weird because when Giroud goes off is when the crosses tend to start coming in, I can't understand our tactics sometimes.
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  6. redwhiteAustrian

    redwhiteAustrian Tu Felix Austria Administrator

    Taking Coque off for Theo, Ramsey into the centre behind Özil and Santi with Sanchez/Theo on the wings and Giroud up front....that's what I'd been hoping for when Theo got ready to come on.
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  7. redwhiteAustrian

    redwhiteAustrian Tu Felix Austria Administrator

    By the way, a thread with 90 pages is ridiculous for a PL game, can't remember any other matchday thread being this big, except for the Barca home CL one from 2011.
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  8. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member Trusted

    When I saw that Mertesacker and Koscielny were out, my confidence of winning this game dramatically dropped. I don't care how good the other players are, if your first choice CBs are not available you are in a world of trouble.

    The CBs are a crucial part of a team's spine. I was happy that Chambers and Gabriel didn't have to go up against Yaya Toure, Silva and Aguero because that would have been game over for us.
    Petr Cech is just a bad motherfucker and he knows it. He was sensational and protected our naive backline. I think the bottom line is obvious: We need more goal threats out there.
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  9. RandyMarsh

    RandyMarsh Established Member

    It's funny actually, in our last 6 home games where we've failed to score in 5 of them, the only people who've managed to score in that run are players not in our first team (Walcott and Wilshere).

    The players in that team yesterday have been hopeless at scoring in the league for a while now. Why are we finding it so hard to score at home atm? P*sses me off.
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  10. Bould14

    Bould14 Well-Known Member

    Wenger's subs has the opposite effect. In my opinion he miss managed the match.
  11. SuperGoon

    SuperGoon Debbie Downer

    Same. It's embarrassing. Teams are supposed to fear us at home.
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  12. SuperGoon

    SuperGoon Debbie Downer

    Agreed. I would have started with Walcott/Chamberlain, tbh. Dropped one of the mid-field.
  13. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    I get the sense AW doesn't trust Theo out wide anymore, maybe something to do with defensive cover. Could be wrong. Maybe it's just been decided Theo will focus on CF now, on the training pitch and in matches, esp. with Ox developing well at RWF.
  14. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Theos' been pushing to play CF for years. We have Ox in addition to Ramsey and Wilshere (and Alexis as well) who can all play RW so I think Wenger is now giving Theo his shot up front as we are thin there anyway. Wenger said at the end of last season that Theo will play through the middle now.

    Theo did well last year when he was starting games up top, I think he'll do so again.
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  15. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    ... nevertheless, appears pretty clear to me that we would be better off with Ox starting (as RWF) and Ramsey as CM, regardless of who AW chooses as CF. Proof is right about the emergency CB issue affecting confidence and balance, but I still feel from what I saw at Palace also that playing Caz at CM, Ramsey at RWF, and Ox on the bench is not our best line up.
  16. Jaywood Mac

    Jaywood Mac Well-Known Member

    Same old crap, all our players seem to go off the boil at the same time, when we are good away from home we are crap at home and vice versa. Always two or three signings away from a title challenging squad. When we end up 3rd or 4th or wherever Wenger has a lot to answer for. No excuses, moneys there, players particularly in midfield have been there but as usual he sees our team in rose tinted glasses that can only be improved by a select few players in world football. Also sick of the Coutinho bashing on this forum. He ran us all over the place first half like he did at Anfield last season. If he was an Arsenal player wed be saying he's up there with Hazard. Embarrassing.
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  17. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Take it with a pinch of salt but another 'itk' said last season that Wenger was pissed at Theo for Kane's winner at WHL; he didn't bother tracking Bentaleb, who was free to cross from the left wing.
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  18. SuperGoon

    SuperGoon Debbie Downer

    Did Theo even play in that game?? I honestly can't remember. I remember Welbeck/Giroud were in. Sanchez was out for injury.
  19. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    @SuperGoon he came on as a sub, his main contribution was ****ing up a 1v1 after Rosicky played him in.
  20. VancouverCanuck

    VancouverCanuck Well-Known Member

    So pissed that Walcott was offered a new contract? LOL.
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