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EPL: Arsenal v Stoke City - 12/09/15, 15:00

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Bashii

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Was nice to see not too much passing round the box doing nothing with the ball and no movement in the box. We seemed to be trying to make things happen when in the final third which is much better to see.

Seriously lackluster finishing coupled with a MOTM performance by Butland meant it was only 2-0. Could have easily been double that.

Still creating a ton of chances though and that's better than the opposite for sure. The goals will come soon, we are starting to get our sh*t together boys!
 

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Just got back from the game, there's a lot to say but I'll keep it simple because it's probably already been said on here.

Walcott and Giroud will be the reason we drop a lot of points this season, we probably have the most wasteful striking options I've ever seen us have under Wenger.

They're both made of strong stuff though, when Giroud had that awful miss he had literally the whole stadium moaning at him. Takes a lot to recover from that and still score.
 

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I still don't know why Wenger shoves Ramsey on the right when we have the Ox and Joel Campbell. I'm sure they would have more of an impact than Ramsey on the right.
The Ox has been poor for a while, I'm actually going to agree with Wenger on this one.

The Ox is just full of mistakes and bad decision making these days, I would say it's a risk playing him.
 

Bashii

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I still don't know why Wenger shoves Ramsey on the right when we have the Ox and Joel Campbell. I'm sure they would have more of an impact than Ramsey on the right.


Yea Ramsey was poor yet again. The only positive is his link up play with Bellerin is improving, but that's not enough for him to be a nailed on starter for me. It really would be interesting to see the Ox start 4-5 games in a row and see if he can push himself up a couple of levels.
 

Bashii

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Just got back from the game, there's a lot to say but I'll keep it simple because it's probably already been said on here.

Walcott and Giroud will be the reason we drop a lot of points this season, we probably have the most wasteful striking options I've ever seen us have under Wenger.

They're both made of strong stuff though, when Giroud had that awful miss he had literally the whole stadium moaning at him. Takes a lot to recover from that and still score.


What did you think of Ramsey today? his work rate can be missed on the TV. Did he impact the game defensively at all? Because going forward it seemed like he gave us very little.
 

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What did you think of Ramsey today? his work rate can be missed on the TV. Did he impact the game defensively at all? Because going forward it seemed like he gave us very little.
Everytime I watch Ramsey in person I remember how good of an actual footballer he is. I think he's definitely suffering from this stint on the right just as much as the team is. He's very tidy on the ball and one thing that is often overlooked is how good he is in the tackle as well as in physical duels - he's deceptively strong.

From where I was Cazorla isn't necessary for us in the starting eleven, he doesn't do enough to justify being our starting CM imo. He was fantastic in his little cameo as our CAM and that's where I think he should play.
 

Mastadon

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Front line was much more fluid with plenty of pace and movement without Giroud. Really think he should be used as a squad player he will get plenty of time off the bench and he can start games against certain opposition. Ramsey on the right is just one of those bizarre things Wenger does that we will never understand.
 

Marmaduke

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I'm actually really confused by some people's opinions because I thought Ramsey had a very solid game. I actually saw some sense in him being on the right for once.
 

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Everytime I watch Ramsey in person I remember how good of an actual footballer he is. I think he's definitely suffering from this stint on the right just as much as the team is. He's very tidy on the ball and one thing that is often overlooked is how good he is in the tackle as well as in physical duels - he's deceptively strong.

From where I was Cazorla isn't necessary for us in the starting eleven, he doesn't do enough to justify being our starting CM imo. He was fantastic in his little cameo as our CAM and that's where I think he should play.

100% agree
 

arsenalhumor

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Sucks that we have to go to Croatia the same day Chelsea play at home to an Israeli team 3 days before we go to Stamford Bridge at a 12:45 Saturday kick off.

Chelsea is going down fast we have nothing to fear at the bridge in an open game. We will be so fired up ,We will beat them.
... Ramsey on the right is just one of those bizarre things Wenger does that we will never understand.

It makes for a hybrid 442 433 formation. If Walcott used the space better it would be a straight 442
Which is what I would like to see.
 

Mastadon

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I love the 442 formation because we swept the league playing the best football ever seen in England with it. How would it be a 4-4-2? Who is playing up front with Özil and on the wings?
 

Trilly

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Something wrong with the way we finish...hope they are not training related
It might be. Cazorla and Rosicky both came here with good shooting and over the years they've just become average in that department. Cazorla doesn't even score from open play anymore :lol:.
 

RandyMarsh

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I love the 442 formation because we swept the league playing the best football ever seen in England with it. How would it be a 4-4-2? Who is playing up front with Özil and on the wings?
Giroud Walcott
Alexis Coquelin Ramsey Özil

Not sure Özil fits into a 4-4-2 though. Not a fan of him on the wings.
 

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It might be. Cazorla and Rosicky both came here with good shooting and over the years they've just become average in that department. Cazorla doesn't even score from open play anymore :lol:.
Same thing happened with Arshavin. I honestly expected him to hit that shot against Barca into row Z.
 

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guys, can someone please PM a link to download or watch online the game on full hd please, i was at work.
 

Vinci

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I love the 442 formation because we swept the league playing the best football ever seen in England with it. How would it be a 4-4-2? Who is playing up front with Özil and on the wings?
-----00-Giroud-Özil
Alexis-Ramsey-Coquelin-The Ox
Monreal-Gabriel-Koscielny-Bellerin
------------Cech

Think this team comes closest to how we would line up in a 4-4-2. Özil lacks a bit of goalscoring for that role, though. Could play Walcott up top with Giroud, but then we would be short of creativity and would have to play Santi in the middle or Özil on the wing.

I like a 4-4-2 too, but our current group is definitely best fit for our current system or a different variant of the 4-3-3.
 
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