Ex-Gunner Watch

[jerome2158]

to be fair, that's no run of the mill defence though. Not the type of players you expect to have generation after generation.

 

[redwhiteAustrian]

So dpt49, what you're basically saying is, that you've known this very situation at Arsenal for over two decades now, yet you still continue to moan about our apparently low ambition in the transfer market in nearly every thread?

 

[dpt49]

So dpt49, what you're basically saying is, that you've known this very situation at Arsenal for over two decades now, yet you still continue to moan about our apparently low ambition in the transfer market in nearly every thread?

Unfortunately, Yes. :wink:
It's a lot more than two decades as well.
In all the years I have supported Arsenal we have always had a net spending of zero.
I think the supporters deserve better from one of the biggest clubs in world football.

 

[11211goon]

I think the supporters deserve better from one of the biggest clubs in world football.

And that is really all that should be said. You are one of the rare principle posters on this forum that persists on that important point - this is a big club and its fans should INSIST not on peanuts, but on trophies and best results.

 

[Uncle Mike]

It was the defence that Goerge Graham built and Arsène inherited that gave us a lot of success in Arsène's early years at the club,
and we have not really had a defence to match up to Dixon. Winterburn. Adams. and Bould. plus Seaman as our keeper

Bullshit.

Seaman -> Lehmann
Dixon -> Lauren
Bould -> Campbell
Adams -> Toure
Winterburn -> Cole

If you want to blame Wenger for something regarding the defense, blame him for not properly replacing the replacements for Graham's back 5, at least not at first:

Lehmann -> Almunia -> Szczesny (got it right on 2nd try)
Lauren -> Eboue -> Sagna (got it right on 2nd try)
Campbell -> Senderos -> Koscielny (got it right on 2nd try)
Toure -> Vermaelen (got it right on 1st try)
Cole -> Clichy -> Gibbs & Santos (jury still out on whether he's gotten it right

 

[scytheavatar]

Lehmann is a mediocre goalkeeper in comparision to Seaman, it's accurate to say that he's not fit to lick Seaman's boots. Campbell/Lauren/Toure are obviously good defenders but Bould/Dixon/Adams is on another level. Only Cole is probably as good if not better than Winterburn.

 

[Dokaka]

Lehmann is a mediocre goalkeeper in comparision to Seaman, it's accurate to say that he's not fit to lick Seaman's boots. Campbell/Lauren/Toure are obviously good defenders but Bould/Dixon/Adams is on another level. Only Cole is probably as good if not better than Winterburn.

What?

I grew up watching both of them, with Lehmann being my idol, and I strongly disagree that "Lehmann was mediocre" compared to Seaman.

Seaman was obviously a good keeper but I think Lehmann was as good. He'll obviously never reach the same admiration because Seaman is an Arsenal legend, but pure ability wise I'd rate Lehmann on par with Seaman.

I'd also rate Campbell on par with Bould, Dixon and Adams. One of the best defenders ever in my opinion, certainly one of the best I've ever seen.

 

[fabo]

Seaman is definitely better than Lehmann for me. More reliable.

Cole >> Winterburn for sure.

Campbell deserves recognition alongside Adams and Bould, possibly in the middle of those two.

 

[clockwork orange]

Marc Overmars has been appointed as a member of the Ajax board (he'll be 1 of the 3 members). He's be in charge of Football Affairs.

Good place to learn from his mistakes and thereafter move to the Arsenal.

 

[dpt49]

Marc Overmars has been appointed as a member of the Ajax board (he'll be 1 of the 3 members). He's be in charge of Football Affairs.

Good place to learn from his mistakes and thereafter move to the Arsenal.

He can bring Bergkamp with him.

Manager, Bergkamp
Assistant, Overmars
Defensive Coach, Keown
Youth Team Coach, Henry

Where is that wishlist?

 

[Clrnc]

Lehmann is a mediocre goalkeeper in comparision to Seaman, it's accurate to say that he's not fit to lick Seaman's boots. Campbell/Lauren/Toure are obviously good defenders but Bould/Dixon/Adams is on another level. Only Cole is probably as good if not better than Winterburn.

What?

I grew up watching both of them, with Lehmann being my idol, and I strongly disagree that "Lehmann was mediocre" compared to Seaman.

Seaman was obviously a good keeper but I think Lehmann was as good. He'll obviously never reach the same admiration because Seaman is an Arsenal legend, but pure ability wise I'd rate Lehmann on par with Seaman.

I'd also rate Campbell on par with Bould, Dixon and Adams. One of the best defenders ever in my opinion, certainly one of the best I've ever seen.

I'd agree with both your points, especially on Lehmann. He is too underrated by Arsenal fans compared to Seaman. Mad Jens during the UCL run, performed like the best keeper I have ever seen.

 

[clockwork orange]

All in favour of bringing those 4 legends in. Don't think Overmars will ever be assistant. He should replace Gazidis.

 

[baccy_man]

It looks like Kolo Toure could be on his way to Turkey because he can't get into the team at city,

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_7892661,0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_7892661,0.html</a>

 

[Shue]

Seaman is definitely better than Lehmann for me. More reliable.

Cole >> Winterburn for sure.

Campbell deserves recognition alongside Adams and Bould, possibly in the middle of those two.

Bit late to this thread, but I'd agree strongly with this assessment.

 

[GDeep™]

Lee Dixon has left the BBC, rumours he will head over to ITV, would love to see him at Sky tbh, next to Jamie Redkapp/Gary Neville on match days.

Dixon was a class above Shearer/Lawro/Hansen on the BBC.

 

[dpt49]

Lee Dixon has left the BBC, rumours he will head over to ITV, would love to see him at Sky tbh, next to Jamie Redkapp/Gary Neville on match days.

Dixon was a class above Shearer/Lawro/Hansen on the BBC.

I agree.
Dixon make Lawrenson and Hanson look like amateurs.
Keown is always good, and Seedorf was excellent during the Euros as well.

When you listen to pundits like Dixon you actually learn something.
When you listen to Hanson and Lawrenson all they do is state the obvious and go on about how great football used to be.

 

[Uncle Mike]

So does this mean Dixon has gone to rehab, and beaten his addiction to bullshit?

 

[say yes]

Oh Henry

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTN2Vmkdm5U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTN2Vmkdm5U</a>

I honestly think this guy should have his own thread, preferably stickied. I love him to a ridiculous extent

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Still a top quality player.

 

[baccy_man]

It looks like we have finally got Almunia of our books he is going to Watford on a freebie,

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