FC Köln vs Arsenal - 16:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

[Yaya]

Many of the first team players that didn't participate in the tour are expected to be included in the squad, these include RvP,Podolski,Giroud,Mertesacker and our new signing Santi! :bounce Some of the reserves/squad players could miss out on the trip. Last pre-season game before we face Sunderland on the 18th August.

 

[Yaya]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Wouldn't be surprised if van Persie starts the game as a captain.

 

[Dokaka]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Podolski already facing his old club, impressive.

He'll score, it's inevitable.

 

[jmsmtthw28]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Podoslki - Van persie - Walcott
--------- Cazorla
------ Arteta ---- Diaby -----
Gibbs - Vermaelen - Kos -- Coq
---------- Szczesny

A bit more offensive lineup than usual

 

[Floating]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Podoslki - Van persie - Walcott
--------- Cazorla
------ Arteta ---- Diaby -----
Gibbs - Vermaelen - Kos -- Coq
---------- Szczesny

A bit more offensive lineup than usual

Quality side, that.

 

[Tranquil]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Podoslki - Van persie - Walcott
--------- Cazorla
------ Arteta ---- Diaby -----
Gibbs - Vermaelen - Kos -- Coq
---------- Szczesny

A bit more offensive lineup than usual

Even with poor old Coq at RB that team still makes me wanna fapfapfap

 

[Wrighty4eva]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Podoslki - Van persie - Walcott
--------- Cazorla
------ Arteta ---- Sahin -----
Gibbs - Vermaelen - Kos -- Coq
---------- Szczesny

A bit more offensive lineup than usual

Quality side, that.

Fixed. Now that is a quality side .

 

[arsenallegends]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

absolutely minging that midfield would get run over. I'll bet my avatar we'll never see that midfield and for good reason.

 

[Wrighty4eva]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

absolutely minging that midfield]would get run over. I'll bet my avatar we'll never see that midfield and for good reason.

whats that supposed to mean ?

 

[Airknight]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

The Diaby show, once again.

Didn't Arsène said something about Poldi and Giroud's fitness?

 

[arsenallegends]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

absolutely minging that midfield]would get run over. I'll bet my avatar we'll never see that midfield and for good reason.

whats that supposed to mean ?

Excuse me, I was sloppy with my words. Its irrelevant though because the rest of what I said pretty much explains it. Nobody has really nothing to go by right now, everyone is making a fair few assumptions about the side, so reluctantly, I'll join in and just say that I cannot understand the logic of a Arteta-Sahin-Carzola heralded by some on AM. In fact all it tells me is a lack of appreciation for defensive solidity in general, and specifically Song.

 

[kenkbc2]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Podoslki - Van persie - Walcott
--------- Cazorla
------ Arteta ---- Diaby -----
Gibbs - Vermaelen - Kos -- Coq
---------- Szczesny

A bit more offensive lineup than usual

Well, since its a pre-season friendly, let's see how that line-up performs. Only thing is that since this will be the last pre-season match before Sunderland, Arsène may want to see the starting line-up to mirror the match against the Black Cats.

 

[Airknight]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

absolutely minging that midfield]would get run over. I'll bet my avatar we'll never see that midfield and for good reason.

whats that supposed to mean ?

Excuse me, I was sloppy with my words. Its irrelevant though because the rest of what I said pretty much explains it. Nobody has really nothing to go by right now, everyone is making a fair few assumptions about the side, so reluctantly, I'll join in and just say that I cannot understand the logic of a Arteta-Sahin-Carzola heralded by some on AM. In fact all it tells me is a lack of appreciation for defensive solidity in general, and specifically Song.

I agree with this, thinking Arteta can do MOST of the defensive work is kind of a wild shot.

Not sure of how well Sahin contributes defensively (if he arrives by the time)

 

[Proof]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

The men's basketball final is at the same hour, so I'll probably miss the whole match. I believe that this match was part of the Podolski deal. Hopefully we'll see Van Persie for at least 30 minutes.

 

[Yaya]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Excuse me, I was sloppy with my words. Its irrelevant though because the rest of what I said pretty much explains it. Nobody has really nothing to go by right now, everyone is making a fair few assumptions about the side, so reluctantly, I'll join in and just say that I cannot understand the logic of a Arteta-Sahin-Carzola heralded by some on AM. In fact all it tells me is a lack of appreciation for defensive solidity in general, and specifically Song.

Haven't seen much of that last season, Arteta carried out the vast majority of the defensive responsibility in mf, not sure how Song is better defensively, he's worse tactically/positionally. Rather than take up some defensive responsibility in mf when Arteta went out through an injury, he completely abandoned it, and left Ramsey to carryout the defensive job. Song didn't make much of a positive contribution in defense.

 

[kenkbc2]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Arteta's overall defensive quality is very much underated.. I wouldn't mind giving the Arteta-Sahin/Diaby-Cazorla trio a workout at midfield just to see if they can hack it . We already know what Song is capable of in that position. No harm in trying out something new to see if its workable...

 

[Clrnc]

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You guys are funny. Cazorla haven't even signed, let alone Sahin yet people are talking as if they are our players

 

[arsenallegends]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Haven't seen much of that last season, Arteta carried out the vast majority of the defensive responsibility in mf, not sure how Song is better defensively, he's worse tactically/positionally. Rather than take up some defensive responsibility in mf when Arteta went out through an injury, he completely abandoned it, and left Ramsey to carryout the defensive job. Song didn't make much of a positive contribution in defense.

That's a gross exaggeration, Arteta did not carry out the vast majority of the defensive responsibility last season. He chose to suit his game tp our midfield, which meant he would station himself deeper when Song would drive the ball forward. Off the ball he was also positionally adept when tracking back and would often intercept danger. This does not mean that Song isn't a CDM or that Arteta is one. If anything they both developed into tandem deep lying CMs. So replacing Song with Diaby/Sahin is a recipe for poo. I would rather Coquelin or Frimpong. Not that I can recall clearly, but he was usually partnered with Rodwell and Fellaini at EFC. That tells a bit about how one goes about reinforcing the rest of the midfield after Arteta

Ramsey wasn't doing **** offensively for us; its what made Song make assists and create chances for the team right from pre-season. Sadly, his offensive exploits, combined with Arteta's precautionary style have completely nulled any appreciation for his defensive work from last season, which was bloody excellent in some parts, but lukewarm in comparison to season's gone by.

Arteta's overall defensive quality is very much underated.. I wouldn't mind giving the Arteta-Sahin/Diaby-Cazorla trio a workout at midfield just to see if they can hack it .We already know what Song is capable of in that position. No harm in trying out something new to see if its workable...

Quite right. Doubt this idea will leave the training pitch and if it does I'd be very interested to see how Arteta responds.

 

[arsenallegends]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Not sure of how well Sahin contributes defensively (if he arrives by the time)

Not familiar with him myself but don't think he'd be better defender than Rosicky.

 

[mccroix]

Re: FC Köln vs Arsenal - 17:00 - Sunday 12/08/12 ESPN

Excellent news:

Off to cologne withe the first team #buzzin #workevenhardernow - @SergeGnarby