✍️ OFFICIAL Joe Willock (Out)

[Arsenal1508]

I don't even know what to say to this, what goes through peoples heads seriously

I expect something dumb like this like dumb decisions before. We agreed a fee without player even agreeing personal terms. What a waste of time.

 

[Hleb's Sirush]

"Walked out of the room" seems so dramatic. I can imagine Joe's father like this when he heard something he didn't like.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

I expect something dumb like this like dumb decisions before. We agreed a fee without player even agreeing personal terms. What a waste of time.

I mean, why is that a problem?

 

[Arai]

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Pete is awful I dont know where he gets his stuff from.

 

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

Six years, long time. Hope he does well there and hope we'll use the funds for a quality addition.

 

[Gn1212]

How do you even agree fee without agree personal terms with player and and agent first.

It's not unusual at all. It's actually normal.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

It's not unusual at all. It's actually normal.

But most clubs do at least Agee with player and his agent verbally between contact the club look like the problem was contract length not money

 

[dashsnow17]

Why would any player agree to a 6 year contract? It's so dumb.

 

[drippin]

So the problem was that Willock wanted a 6 year contract and not shorter? Sounds pretty weird. I would think he rather wants a shorter contract to get a better wage faster again. Isn't 5 years pretty normal? He will be bound to Newcastle for a long time if this is true, unless he has a release clause. Or maybe he just doesn't back himself.

 

[Pyres7]

It was probably Newcastle pushing for a longer contract, not Willock. Players at that age care more about what the annual salary looks like.

 

[Gn1212]

But most clubs do at least Agee with player and his agent verbally between contact the club look like the problem was contract length not money

What happens more often than not:
1) Sound out if the player is open to moving to your club
2) If they're open to the move you sound out if their club is open to selling the player
3) If they are you start negotiating
4) When you're close to an agreement you start negotiating personal terms with the player

There are scenarios where clubs and players discuss personal terms far earlier.
Anyway, there isn't really an order with these things. We've seen Sp**s agree a deal for Kounde with Sevilla only for Kounde to reject the move and we've seen Kola's move to Bayer last year break down because they couldn't find an agreement with him.

 

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

I do hope we either have a big sell on % wrapped in this deal or some sort of a buyback clause, we should always do that with youngsters that don't get enough chances at Arsenal. If their career explodes elsewhere, you should always make sure you benefit.

Knowing Edu, he's never heard of either option.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Willock might want stability and Newcastle will want long term so in case he explode and be really good midfielder they'll get double or more what they paid even if he turn out to be average they'll get close what they paid because he Home grown English and still young

 

[Big Poppa]

Could be but nowadays most club make sure they agree things with players first verbally before going agree things other club. Anyway I'm glad they found agreement

They can agree numbers but it can get complicated when buying clubs add clauses like optional contract extensions, which usually aren’t discussed until after clubs have agreed a fee.

 

[Arai]

 

[Hjalmaar]

Is he really going to "Kane" himself to a relegation fight/championship circus for six years?

 

[HairSprayGooners]

GL Joe!!

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

Good luck to Joe. He did more than could be expected of him during his loan spell there. A shame he didn't get a second chance here.

Fee is decent, I guess.

 

[Macho]

Well, all the posters on Kroenke's payroll begging for his sale can rejoice now. Hope you enjoy the minor fee.