Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?

[Sanchez11]

inject it into my veins!

So Gabi should start ahead of Laca??

 

[al-Ustaadh]

So Gabi should start ahead of Laca??

And was before Auba’s suspension.

 

[The_Playmaker]

inject it into my veins!

That's interesting as the way he has set the team up is genius but has its pros and cons.

The system we play benefits Luiz, Xhaka, Saka, Özil and Lacazette, but to the detriment of Pepe, Auba, Bellerin and Torreira. We create overloads on either flank by switching play, but we struggle to create chances as we can't get people close enough to goal.

Özil doesn't shoot. Pepe has to beat 3 men to shoot, Auba is coming off the wing and should stand less chance of scoring but his movement and pace just about gets him there, same for Martinelli, Lacazette is out of form and spends most of his time out of the box. Torreira and Guendouzi occupy the central space and hold the midfield. They look good when in control but stressed when we are not. Less so under Arteta as the press is at least organised. Bellerin is also more effective in the final third but can't overlap due to our lack of legs in midfield.

Everything that Arteta is doing is to cover weaknesses at the expense of playing to our strengths.

We create the overload as teams wont leave Pepe 1v1 so they leave Saka and we have players who can switch the play, but we struggle to capitalise on the overloads without goal scoring midfielders.

We currently play with a 4 4 1 1 out of possession with Özil and Laca together, Auba left and Pepe right. And a 3 2 5 in possession. Xhaka drops into left CB of a 3 with the right back pushing up and tucking in alongside Torreira or Guendouzi. Our front 5 consists of a left back on the left wing, our right winger on the right, a number 10 in Özil a pivot hard worker in Laca and a goal scorer in Auba or Martinelli drifting in off the flank.

Saka--------Martinelli---Lacazette--Özil--Pepe

-------------------Torreira-----------------BEllerin

------------Xhaka------------Luiz--------Sokratis

------------------------------Leno

I believe this isn't how Arteta wants to play. Its just how he has to play currently. I believe he wants a 4 3 3 out possession and a 2 3 5 in possession with wingers at the edge of the 5 and two 8s to push forward and create combinations. I think he wants to invert both full backs. That leaves you with a problem as it means you only pick 3 forwards. Laca, Auba, Martinelli, Saka, Nelson, Özil. 6 forwards for 3 positions and currently Auba, Martinelli, Pepe and Saka have made themselves undroppable. You could even argue Laca has due to the pivot role he is playing.

That means Arteta needs to tweak it and the signings allow him to do that. I think its Özil out, Martinelli in. Xhaka out AMN in, Torreira out, Guendouzi in, Sokratis out Mari in.

Saka-----Auba----Lacazette--MArtinelli--Pepe

----------------AMN---Guendouzi---Bellerin

------------------------Mari--------Luiz

--------------------------------Leno

That is closer to the 2 3 5 that Arteta wants all beit a bit make shift.

Saka continues to play his left wing role but partnered with Auba instead of Martinelli.

Lacazette continues to play the pivot.

Pepe continues his wide role.

The massive change is taking Özil out for Martinelli. Its offers an additional threat on the break, a runner in behind, a dribbler and a shooter. You don't need to double up on Özil. Martinelli, Bellerin and Pepe in the right space will force teams to massively adjust.

Not only that but behind them 3 midfield 3 is far more solid. We have recovery pace in AMN and Bellerin with a dominant passer in Guendouzi who wants to hold the centre of the pitch. AMN brings athleticism and drive as does Bellerin. That leaves you with the back two. Two passes protected by a midfield 3 and capable of switching the play allowing us to create overloads. The difference is that when we overload on the left and Saka delivers, Auba and Martinelli are in the box with Laca on the edge and Pepe at the back post with AMN , Bellerin and Guendouzi defending the counter.

When we overload right we have Auba and Martinelli in the box with Saka back post and Laca on the edge.

It may not be how Arteta wants to play 100 percent but it has the potential to be just as good.

 

[HollandGooner]

That's interesting as the way he has set the team up is genius but has its pros and cons.

The system we play benefits Luiz, Xhaka, Saka, Özil and Lacazette, but to the detriment of Pepe, Auba, Bellerin and Torreira. We create overloads on either flank by switching play, but we struggle to create chances as we can't get people close enough to goal.

Özil doesn't shoot. Pepe has to beat 3 men to shoot, Auba is coming off the wing and should stand less chance of scoring but his movement and pace just about gets him there, same for Martinelli, Lacazette is out of form and spends most of his time out of the box. Torreira and Guendouzi occupy the central space and hold the midfield. They look good when in control but stressed when we are not. Less so under Arteta as the press is at least organised. Bellerin is also more effective in the final third but can't overlap due to our lack of legs in midfield.

Everything that Arteta is doing is to cover weaknesses at the expense of playing to our strengths.

We create the overload as teams wont leave Pepe 1v1 so they leave Saka and we have players who can switch the play, but we struggle to capitalise on the overloads without goal scoring midfielders.

We currently play with a 4 4 1 1 out of possession with Özil and Laca together, Auba left and Pepe right. And a 3 2 5 in possession. Xhaka drops into left CB of a 3 with the right back pushing up and tucking in alongside Torreira or Guendouzi. Our front 5 consists of a left back on the left wing, our right winger on the right, a number 10 in Özil a pivot hard worker in Laca and a goal scorer in Auba or Martinelli drifting in off the flank.

Saka--------Martinelli---Lacazette--Özil--Pepe

-------------------Torreira-----------------BEllerin

------------Xhaka------------Luiz--------Sokratis

------------------------------Leno

I believe this isn't how Arteta wants to play. Its just how he has to play currently. I believe he wants a 4 3 3 out possession and a 2 3 5 in possession with wingers at the edge of the 5 and two 8s to push forward and create combinations. I think he wants to invert both full backs. That leaves you with a problem as it means you only pick 3 forwards. Laca, Auba, Martinelli, Saka, Nelson, Özil. 6 forwards for 3 positions and currently Auba, Martinelli, Pepe and Saka have made themselves undroppable. You could even argue Laca has due to the pivot role he is playing.

That means Arteta needs to tweak it and the signings allow him to do that. I think its Özil out, Martinelli in. Xhaka out AMN in, Torreira out, Guendouzi in, Sokratis out Mari in.

Saka-----Auba----Lacazette--MArtinelli--Pepe

----------------AMN---Guendouzi---Bellerin

------------------------Mari--------Luiz

--------------------------------Leno

That is closer to the 2 3 5 that Arteta wants all beit a bit make shift.

Saka continues to play his left wing role but partnered with Auba instead of Martinelli.

Lacazette continues to play the pivot.

Pepe continues his wide role.

The massive change is taking Özil out for Martinelli. Its offers an additional threat on the break, a runner in behind, a dribbler and a shooter. You don't need to double up on Özil. Martinelli, Bellerin and Pepe in the right space will force teams to massively adjust.

Not only that but behind them 3 midfield 3 is far more solid. We have recovery pace in AMN and Bellerin with a dominant passer in Guendouzi who wants to hold the centre of the pitch. AMN brings athleticism and drive as does Bellerin. That leaves you with the back two. Two passes protected by a midfield 3 and capable of switching the play allowing us to create overloads. The difference is that when we overload on the left and Saka delivers, Auba and Martinelli are in the box with Laca on the edge and Pepe at the back post with AMN , Bellerin and Guendouzi defending the counter.

When we overload right we have Auba and Martinelli in the box with Saka back post and Laca on the edge.

It may not be how Arteta wants to play 100 percent but it has the potential to be just as good.

I loved this read spot on.

 

[The_Playmaker]

I'd also add that to improve that set up for next season, it means spending 120 million max.

I would sell Auba, Miki, Elneny, Mustafi, Sokratis, Kolasinac and bring in:

Werner, Dembele or Osimhen, Camavinga, Gerson or Soumare, a left sided cb, sign Mari and Soares also.

 

[progman07]

Everything that Arteta is doing is to cover weaknesses at the expense of playing to our strengths.

(...)

I believe this isn't how Arteta wants to play. Its just how he has to play currently.

I find these lines very interesting and true.

The squad is so imbalanced, with many flawed players right now, that Arteta had to adapt.I think the Xhaka example is a genious of him. Playing Xhaka in his new role means he doesn't have to cover as much ground, he doesn't have to receive the ball with his back to the opponents, and on the other hand he can cover the left backs (as both Kolasinac and Saka are more attacking minded), which helps Auba drift centrally.

Under Emery, we tried to pass out of the back but we had no idea how to do it. Under Arteta, we have very clear patterns, and I think the fact that Xhaka's body shape and position is much better suited to this helps big time to achieve that.

Basically it wastes our right side, because there is no player in the squad who can do what Xhaka does for our left side, but obviously it's not down to Arteta, his hands are tied in this respect.

I'd love to see him with a squad he puts together. Hopefully the super-agents are forced out of the club earlier than he gives up.

 

[Tourbillion]

How do people know of so many players on the continent

 

[Eaststander74]

How do people know of so many players on the continent

Football Manager 2020.

Ssshh, we need to let them think they spend every waking hour scouting pub teams around Europe

 

[bandaid]

That means Arteta needs to tweak it and the signings allow him to do that. I think its Özil out, Martinelli in. Xhaka out AMN in, Torreira out, Guendouzi in, Sokratis out Mari in.

Saka-----Auba----Lacazette--MArtinelli--Pepe

----------------AMN---Guendouzi---Bellerin

------------------------Mari--------Luiz

--------------------------------Leno
Not only that but behind them 3 midfield 3 is far more solid. We have recovery pace in AMN and Bellerin with a dominant passer in Guendouzi who wants to hold the centre of the pitch. AMN brings athleticism and drive as does Bellerin. That leaves you with the back two. Two passes protected by a midfield 3 and capable of switching the play allowing us to create overloads. The difference is that when we overload on the left and Saka delivers, Auba and Martinelli are in the box with Laca on the edge and Pepe at the back post with AMN , Bellerin and Guendouzi defending the counter.

geez, and you are talking football tactics so seriously. almost got fooled there for a minute.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
is that you Matteo?
thanks for laugh.

 

[Furious]

That's interesting as the way he has set the team up is genius but has its pros and cons.

The system we play benefits Luiz, Xhaka, Saka, Özil and Lacazette, but to the detriment of Pepe, Auba, Bellerin and Torreira. We create overloads on either flank by switching play, but we struggle to create chances as we can't get people close enough to goal.

Özil doesn't shoot. Pepe has to beat 3 men to shoot, Auba is coming off the wing and should stand less chance of scoring but his movement and pace just about gets him there, same for Martinelli, Lacazette is out of form and spends most of his time out of the box. Torreira and Guendouzi occupy the central space and hold the midfield. They look good when in control but stressed when we are not. Less so under Arteta as the press is at least organised. Bellerin is also more effective in the final third but can't overlap due to our lack of legs in midfield.

Everything that Arteta is doing is to cover weaknesses at the expense of playing to our strengths.

We create the overload as teams wont leave Pepe 1v1 so they leave Saka and we have players who can switch the play, but we struggle to capitalise on the overloads without goal scoring midfielders.

We currently play with a 4 4 1 1 out of possession with Özil and Laca together, Auba left and Pepe right. And a 3 2 5 in possession. Xhaka drops into left CB of a 3 with the right back pushing up and tucking in alongside Torreira or Guendouzi. Our front 5 consists of a left back on the left wing, our right winger on the right, a number 10 in Özil a pivot hard worker in Laca and a goal scorer in Auba or Martinelli drifting in off the flank.

Saka--------Martinelli---Lacazette--Özil--Pepe

-------------------Torreira-----------------BEllerin

------------Xhaka------------Luiz--------Sokratis

------------------------------Leno

I believe this isn't how Arteta wants to play. Its just how he has to play currently. I believe he wants a 4 3 3 out possession and a 2 3 5 in possession with wingers at the edge of the 5 and two 8s to push forward and create combinations. I think he wants to invert both full backs. That leaves you with a problem as it means you only pick 3 forwards. Laca, Auba, Martinelli, Saka, Nelson, Özil. 6 forwards for 3 positions and currently Auba, Martinelli, Pepe and Saka have made themselves undroppable. You could even argue Laca has due to the pivot role he is playing.

That means Arteta needs to tweak it and the signings allow him to do that. I think its Özil out, Martinelli in. Xhaka out AMN in, Torreira out, Guendouzi in, Sokratis out Mari in.

Saka-----Auba----Lacazette--MArtinelli--Pepe

----------------AMN---Guendouzi---Bellerin

------------------------Mari--------Luiz

--------------------------------Leno

That is closer to the 2 3 5 that Arteta wants all beit a bit make shift.

Saka continues to play his left wing role but partnered with Auba instead of Martinelli.

Lacazette continues to play the pivot.

Pepe continues his wide role.

The massive change is taking Özil out for Martinelli. Its offers an additional threat on the break, a runner in behind, a dribbler and a shooter. You don't need to double up on Özil. Martinelli, Bellerin and Pepe in the right space will force teams to massively adjust.

Not only that but behind them 3 midfield 3 is far more solid. We have recovery pace in AMN and Bellerin with a dominant passer in Guendouzi who wants to hold the centre of the pitch. AMN brings athleticism and drive as does Bellerin. That leaves you with the back two. Two passes protected by a midfield 3 and capable of switching the play allowing us to create overloads. The difference is that when we overload on the left and Saka delivers, Auba and Martinelli are in the box with Laca on the edge and Pepe at the back post with AMN , Bellerin and Guendouzi defending the counter.

When we overload right we have Auba and Martinelli in the box with Saka back post and Laca on the edge.

It may not be how Arteta wants to play 100 percent but it has the potential to be just as good.

This doesn't make any sense. You say he wants to play 433, yet you have 4 forwards in there(all of them who are absolutely crap passers), you add a nothing player in AMN in there for no reason whatsoever, and cede possession more than Kim K exposes her arse on a Insta post.

 

[14Henry]

Hasnt improved the team. Hasnt created an atmosphere that has produced some kind of bounce. Wants to take the players to Dubai for 4 days. 4 days in Dubai develops what.

 

[field442]

We’re not getting anywhere if he can’t drop players out of form. Lacazette shouldn’t play, Özil shouldn’t play. Martinelli shouldn’t play on the right (a bit more involved once he went to the left), Auba shouldn’t play unless it’s through the middle. Not having AMN on the bench as a replacement full back was ****ing dumb.

Not good.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Can't think of any logical explanation of playing Özil and Lacazette unless he is trying to get them into some form for the summer window.

 

[Jae]

Here we go less than 10 games in and people are turning on him already. Some absolute dickheads on here at times.

 

[field442]

Starts the pair of them

 

[krengon]

He's a rookie and has a lot to learn too tbf.. Neither results or performances have been good enough overall, hopefully that changes before the end of the season..

One positive with the pl season being over is that Arteta can look to the future and experiment a bit more, has to make the tough choices though.

 

[Notorious Big]

He's a good painter.Likes to draw.

 

[Camron]

Starts the pair of them

Clean slate FC

 

[GDeep™]

We’re not getting anywhere if he can’t drop players out of form. Lacazette shouldn’t play, Özil shouldn’t play. Martinelli shouldn’t play on the right (a bit more involved once he went to the left), Auba shouldn’t play unless it’s through the middle. Not having AMN on the bench as a replacement full back was ****ing dumb.

Not good.

He can’t drop players when the alternatives are poor. Willock has been poor for months, as has Pepe, Martinelli offers next to nothing in games other than effort.

 

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

Today was bad (again) and Arteta is to blame to a certain degree. But we have to look at the bigger picture.

His ideas are good and we need to give him at least another full year after this to assess him. Can't be claiming that he's not improving the team already. He's inherited a team of frauds.