TBF, I only find it amusing because of the Aussie accent.In Cricket, during DRS decisions (similar to VAR) we can hear the information passed on from the 3rd umpire to the on pitch umpire during live telecast. We need this in PL. Need clarity.
I will repeat again. I'm not saying they are irrelevant. I'm saying that we are not in the position we are in the league because it VAR. Do you agree with that statement. Dont dodge it just say yes or no. A poster above stated we were about 7/8 points down because of VAR which i
Ok we are 8th in the league because of VAR. Let's all jump on that train.
Embarrassing the narrative around the club.
We have lost more points from winning positions than most team. That's VAR to.
Xhaka or Mustafi will probably give away a penalty on Sunday and we will blame VAR too.
We are not 7/8 points down this season because of VAR. Simple as.
Obviously other teams would’ve had bad VAR calls too and might gain points but we definitely deserve to be in the top four challenge, it’s not like the other teams have been outstandingly better.
4th to 8th are fairly interchangeable this season performance wise.
Watch those and seriously tell me it hasn’t effected the table.
That's the problem. I sometimes feel as fans that we are clutching at straws trying to cry about decisions and not getting them. However in reality they dont/wouldnt make a difference. Would those extra 2 points at Palace made a difference to our over all season? No.
Had we killed of the game against Leciester when we had to opportunities we wouldnt even blink about VAR. In fact maybe Nketiah doesnt even make the challenge if we are 2/3 0 up. He closes down but maybe not as aggressively.
Hard to know.
I will repeat again. I'm not saying they are irrelevant. I'm saying that we are not in the position we are in the league because it VAR. Do you agree with that statement. Dont dodge it just say yes or no. A poster above stated we were about 7/8 points down because of VAR which i
Ok we are 8th in the league because of VAR. Let's all jump on that train.
Embarrassing the narrative around the club.
We have lost more points from winning positions than most team. That's VAR to.
Xhaka or Mustafi will probably give away a penalty on Sunday and we will blame VAR too.
We are not 7/8 points down this season because of VAR. Simple as.
Affected the table by how much? A previous poster said 7/8 points. In your opinion we are 7/8 points down because of VAR?
There is no team above us in the league that doesnt deserve to be above us. You say positions are interchangeable. Go and look at our average position this season. I would guess it isnt 5th or 6th. We havent been close to anything this year. Struggling to even get Europa league as we cant beat brighton. Not because of VAR.
We got dumped out of Europa League because we were rubbish. Not because of VAR or referees.
And to think that maybe a one game format may actually have suited us.
?Massive simp fest his press conference. Absolute disgrace for an Arsenal coach to be talking up Sp**s and Mourinho like that.
#ArtetaOut is closer and closer to returning.
No ones saying we’re that been amazing, we know we’ve been crap.
But just an extra four points from poor calls would’ve put us in the running for CL.
Skip to the end, there’s no way we get that decision btw.
Also denied penalty at Sheffield.
Makes 100% sense to blow hot air up Mourinho’s backside and praise him and his squad. Many coaches talk up their opposition before games. It lowers outside expectations on you end and build them up on the other side. Plus in Mourinho’s case it doesn’t give him a chance to create more bunker mentality.Massive simp fest his press conference. Absolute disgrace for an Arsenal coach to be talking up Sp**s and Mourinho like that.
#ArtetaOut is closer and closer to returning.
Of course we get closer. I'm not saying that an extra 4 points isnt welcome. What I'm saying is I dont want us as fans to get on this.....we are where we are because of VAR. I want fan focus to be on the deficiencies of the team.
I want the players and the coach to be responsible for the outcomes. As I said had the team actually done what they should have against Leciester Eddie's red is irrelevant.
And too many times this season we have been flat or afraid or unable to kill teams off and that is the reason we are were we are. We also have too many players making too many silly decisions. Eddie's was one. We cant say well Jonny Evan's made 8 fouls so it's ok if Eddie snaps into a challenge. The bottom line is Eddie made a poor challenge. Over eager. Which is potentially cost us 3 points.
Lacazette straying offside and not looking the line. School boy stuff. Cost us 3 points.
Poor finishing cost us 3 points and you could look at every match we lost this season or dropped points and find a million faults before we would even consider VAR.
Again I am not saying it's ok for VAR to get things wrong or be used wrong. I'm merely saying that when you have displayed the mistakes we have as a team we should be focusing on them and not trying to say we have been robbed 7-8 points which is what the original poster said to which i replied back.
@14Henry I think the point is that it isn't a binary issue. Arsenal being utter crap and devoid of confidence Oct-Dec is obviously a bigger determiner of league position than bad refs BUT bad refs have resulted in the team having an artificially low points total.
I agree that the greater focus has to be on the team's improvement, particularly as there is nothing we can do about referees incompetence / bias, but that doesn't mean the litany of officiating errors that cost us points year after year should be ignored. I don't think anyone uses it to excuse the team's failings (perhaps except the 50th game and RVP red vs Barca both of which were totally bent refereeing displays that dictated the outcome to an extraordinary degree), but seeing the same stuff year after year after year is not something we have to be happy with.
The bottom line is there are some refs at EPL level who are simply not fit for purpose, and they are all also VAR refs, so the get to double down on that incompetence, rather than the system which is designed to reduce refereeing errors being allowed to do so to an acceptable level.
So you believe that the FA and referees have an agenda against Arsenal. If you say there is a bias why do you believe that referees will give us things that should be given and not give us things that should be given.
I'm not saying your wrong. I'm asking why would Arsenal be targeted by the FA and refs in this way? What is in it for them and why us?