TheEconomist
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Iv been abroad for the past week or so, are there any highlights for this match somewhere?
Burnwinter said:Yeah, it does. Although what I was talking about is more "player competence" than "player intelligence"Anzac said:Begs the f*cking question about all this bloody player intelligence malarky don't it? Wonder how soon we'll hear the same old BS about learning lessons from our mistakes etc?
Anzac, when / where did you become so certain that Wenger is a fervent disciple of Lobanovski, Sacchi and all that "player intelligence" stuff anyway? You often mention it but the only source I can directly recall was an article on tactics that I think was posted at RAWK?
Burnwinter said:Yeah, it does. Although what I was talking about is more "player competence" than "player intelligence"Anzac said:Begs the f*cking question about all this bloody player intelligence malarky don't it? Wonder how soon we'll hear the same old BS about learning lessons from our mistakes etc?
Anzac, when / where did you become so certain that Wenger is a fervent disciple of Lobanovski, Sacchi and all that "player intelligence" stuff anyway? You often mention it but the only source I can directly recall was an article on tactics that I think was posted at RAWK?
True Gooner said:Never leave the country again.
Captain said:actually, screw this.
outlaw_member said:Lol. Only if that's the sole insight one has on Wenger's tenure and football in general.
The Invincibles executed a high court pressing game of winning the ball as high up the pitch as possible. You don't need someone to tell you that is a philosophy which was adopted from Sacchi, the pioneer. The front four of Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and Ljungberg would switch positions at will, with all four of them appearing in each others area at one point or another. That would be a philosophy adopted from Michels. Another ideal of Wenger's is to allow players to learn and develop through their own intuition and experience. That would be the player intelligence idea which was first developed by Lobanovsky.
Regardless, if you don't believe your eyes, it says just as much in a couple of his biographies. Like I said before, during his Monaco days Wenger would frequently travel to Milanello to integrate what he learned on his visits into his own methodology.
Burnwinter said:Thanks Anzac, that's more or less how I'd read your views in the past as well.
I think there needs to be plenty of qualification when translating events on the pitch to imagined instructions (or liberties) from the manager. Many a slip betwixt cup and lip and all that.
Anzac said:It should be noted that in both cases Sacchi & Lobanovsky achieved their success with a team very much like The Invincibles, in that they were not looking to develop youngsters into 1st team players at the same time via the 1st team.