Thomas Partey

[say yes]

Going off tangent a bit here but.... Brexit transition ends in January so our bargaining position for recruiting from the EU isn’t good. I expect in short term more transfers will happen between Spain and Italy again like the 90s.

Arsenal wise we’ve recently signed players on structured deals like Pepe and Saliba (essentially deferred liabilities), contracts expiring for Auba, Laca (asset depreciation), unforeseen Emery compensation and high probability of no CL football due to poor performance.

Where do folks think this money for a €45m player will come from without an injection of outside capital? From stingey owners who rely on retail and sports income? lol.

How many fans will commit to renewing season tickets when there’s no guarantee of being able to attend public events anytime soon?

Even if we reopen but social distancing remains, we’ll have stadiums at 30% capacity. That means %70 loss on matchday revenue.

Advertisers are getting smashed, as are airlines including our main sponsor. How many will be forced to downsize commercial contracts next season?

Footballers are about to be the new dot com companies. Wildly overvalued before getting slapped by the reality of an irrational, unpredictable market.

I’ll be glad if I’m proved wrong.

I don’t think Brexit is of any relevance here.

Immigration / work permit rules would be set by the UK government, and there’s zero chance they’re going to make it difficult for Prem Clubs to buy stars from abroad. Premier league is a huge national industry now, and it would be political **** to hobble it.

 

[Big Poppa]

I don’t think Brexit is of any relevance here.

Immigration / work permit rules would be set by the UK government, and there’s zero chance they’re going to make it difficult for Prem Clubs to buy stars from abroad. Premier league is a huge national industry now, and it would be political **** to hobble it.

Well, a new points-based immigration system similar to that in Australia has been established by the UK government. It will come into effect in January 2021.

PL clubs just like any other employer will have to comply with the new rules for EU citizens, especially those without temporary leave to remain (bizarre to claim that it’s not relevant tbh).

It’s estimated to take a best case of 8 weeks to process a visa for the new system and that can only begin when an offer of employment is concluded. Remember this is a new administration process the UK home office will face. It won’t be perfect.

That means that UK clubs potentially need to conclude contracts up to 2 months before the transfer window closes whereas selling clubs within the EU will want to wait until deadline day to get the biggest offer.

It’s not about whether he’ll qualify or not under the new system (most footballers will meet the criteria), it’s the bureaucratic headache that will put PL clubs at a competitive disadvantage.

Political **** would be not enforcing a constitutional vote. People just didn’t understand what they were voting for.

 

[say yes]

Well, a new points-based immigration system similar to that in Australia has been established by the UK government. It will come into effect in January 2021.

PL clubs just like any other employer will have to comply with the new rules for EU citizens, especially those without temporary leave to remain (bizarre to claim that it’s not relevant tbh when there are plenty of freely available papers on its impact to football).

It’s estimated to take a best case of 8 weeks to process a visa for the new system and that can only begin when an offer of employment is concluded. Remember this is a new administration process like the UK home office will face. It won’t be perfect.

That means that UK clubs potentially need to conclude contracts up to 2 months before the transfer window closes whereas selling clubs within the EU will wait until deadline day to get the biggest offer.

It’s not about whether he’ll qualify or not under the new system (most footballers will meet the criteria), it’s the bureaucratic delay that will put PL clubs at a competitive disadvantage.

The points based system will have a ton of exceptions though, particularly for high-value professionals who need contracts sorted on a short timeframe. I'm certain the government (via the PL and other bodies) will give the necessary assurances to clubs that their business won't be affected.

Genuinely don't think there's anything to this at all, and I'm as negative about Brexit as they come.

 

[Big Poppa]

Excellent post.

It's like no one realises the situation we are in. 28 pages of conjecture.

Furthermore, how can Arsenal pay money for anyone after asking players to take a pay cut?


Fantastic post

It will effect every club slightly differently, but those who recently took out massive loans like Sp**s and rely on commercial revenue to repay them aren’t going to enjoy the next 18 months.

 

[Big Poppa]

The points based system will have a ton of exceptions though, particularly for high-value professionals who need contracts sorted on a short timeframe. I'm certain the government (via the PL and other bodies) will give the necessary assurances to clubs that their business won't be affected.

Genuinely don't think there's anything to this at all, and I'm as negative about Brexit as they come.

Don’t you honestly think the PL have been lobbying government for that? Scudamore has spoken openly about it.

The system has been published mate. It’s on the home office website and applications start in autumn. There’s no special provision for Premier League footballers

 

[say yes]

Don’t you honestly think the PL have been lobbying government for that? Scudamore has spoken openly about it.

The system has been published mate. It’s on the home office website and applications start in autumn. There’s no special provision for Premier League footballers

Of course they've been lobbying government for that. However, none of the immigration rules come into affect this window, and the reality of a points based system is they're constantly tweaked to suit needs when and as they arise. As I've said, I'm certain the PL will be granted all the exemptions they need.

Look at it from the other direction. If Brexit were affecting transfer business, why are we not hearing anything about it? Journalists can't write enough about transfers at the best of times, let alone when there's literally no sport on.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

I don’t know why but I’m actually confident we can get him.. it just depends on how much we really want him

 

[A_G]

 

[truth_hurts]

Graham Hunter touches kids, I don't trust him at all - he's guessing.

A lot of positive noises have come out regarding Partey though.

 

[OnlyOne]

This had Yannick Carrasco written all over, seems so similar, very early on talks that are over the top positive.

 

[Furious]

Seems like such a weird rumour, one of those fan-made ones. No wonder the usual clowns on Twitter are running with it.

Man was killing it at Anfield in the CL, why would he take a step down?

Would make a great partner for Xhaka though.

 

[field442]

This is absolutely a deal we could pull off in normal circumstances. I don’t see how it gets done with the reduced amount of money in football in the next year or two.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

This is absolutely a deal we could pull off in normal circumstances. I don’t see how it gets done with the reduced amount of money in football in the next year or two.

Swap Laca

 

[Furious]

Swap Laca

They have 4 strikers better than him. Hard to see what they'd need him for.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

They have 4 strikers better than him. Hard to see what they'd need him for.

Do Atletico even have 4 strikers ? And Morata is no better

 

[MD3 Gunner]

They have 4 strikers better than him. Hard to see what they'd need him for.

Even when Atletico had Griezmann they wanted to sign Lacazette and were about to in 2017 but their transfer ban was upheld

 

[Furious]

Do Atletico even have 4 strikers ? And Morata is no better

Costa, Morata, Felix and Correa.

 

[MD3 Gunner]

Costa, Morata, Felix and Correa.

Only Felix is better

 

[Furious]

Only Felix is better

Would you honestly lose a great player in Thomas to "upgrade" on any of those with Laca?

He isn't adding anything those 4 lack.

 

[field442]

Only Felix is better

Regardless of who’s better or not, it’s not as simple as just suggesting a swap. Can Atletico meet the wage demands of Laca? Will Laca want to go there when he’s probably leaving us to play Champions League and they might not be in it next season?