European Football

[AFCG7]

Not bad at all.. which Altintop did they sign.. Turkey's RB ?

 

[EMIR8_SOLDIER]

hamit altintop....the attacking player can play second striker too

 

[Mostarac]

Not bad at all.. which Altintop did they sign.. Turkey's RB ?

Yes, Hamit the right-back I think.

 

[Lev]

hamit altintop....the attacking player can play second striker too

Yeah they signed Hamit Altintop, but Hamit is the Turkeys RB, who also plays in midfield. I think you're thinking of his brother EMIR8, who plays up front or in support of the striker

 

[Mostarac]

hamit altintop....the attacking player can play second striker too

Thats Halil Altintop, you are thinking of Hamit who is a right-back, mate.

 

[Alfonso]

They are getting rid of Ali Karimi..bad, bad move Bayern..

 

[Mostarac]

Where is Karimi going, mate? I have always regarded him as the most talented Asian player.

 

[Alfonso]

They said 'destination unknown', which means he will probably return to the UAE league-lol.

Shame he never made it at Bayern, technically he is as good as any one, but mentally he is quite Hleb esq.

 

[Mostarac]

Before Karimi came to Bayern, was he playing in the same league as Batistuta or was Batistuta in Qatar? Its a bit off-topic, but how is Iranian football progressing now, mate?

 

[Alfonso]

To be honest with you mate im not 100% sure, but I think they played in the same league. Karimi has been really disapointing. He could have become a top top player but he did not have the right approach(i.e. professionalism), and mentality to become one.

Iranian football has many problems, mate. And the football authorities will never have full autonomy due to politics and external issues related to the government. As a result this hinders development and proper nurturing of players, and the Iranian FA has many limitations. However, a good few have found themselfs playing in Europe, especially in my beloved Bundesliaga :wink: Theres even one guy playing for Bolton in the Premiership!

Having said that, they have not done too bad in World Cups recentley, famously beating USA 2-1 in France 98.

Btw, I always meant to ask you this, as Croatia was part of the former Yugoslavia, and are your close neighbours, did you support them in France 98 and were you happy with their success? What about Serbia and other countries that like Bosina used to be part of Yugoslavia? Do you see them as friendly rivales or do you always want them to do well as well?

 

[Mostarac]

To be honest with you mate im not 100% sure, but I think they played in the same league. Karimi has been really disapointing. He could have become a top top player but he did not have the right approach(i.e. professionalism), and mentality to become one.
Iranian football has many problems, mate. And the football authorities will never have full autonomy due to politics and external issues related to the government. As a result this hinders development and proper nurturing of players, and the Iranian FA has many limitations. However, a good few have found themselfs playing in Europe, especially in my beloved Bundesliaga :wink: Theres even one guy playing for Bolton in the Premiership!
Having said that, they have not done too bad in World Cups recentley, famously beating USA 2-1 in France 98.
Btw, I always meant to ask you this, as Croatia was part of the former Yugoslavia, and are your close neighbours, did you support them in France 98 and were you happy with their success? What about Serbia and other countries that like Bosina used to be part of Yugoslavia? Do you see them as friendly rivales or do you always want them to do well as well?

Thanks for that, mate. Interesting to read. That guy who plays for Bolton is Armenian-Iranian? And you also have Nekounam at Osasuna :wink: . The war or aggression against Bosnia has made it hard for many to have sympathy with our neighbours, mate. Everything in the Balkans is viewed upon through politics. I can only speak for myself, I have no feelings when Serbia or Croatia play, but I prefer Croatia to Serbia to be honest. Do not shoot me for thinking like that :wink: .

 

[dos1986]

UEFA Team Rankings 2008

03/04 04/05 05/06 06/07 07/08
1 AC Milan Ita 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 102.552
2 Chelsea Eng 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 94.098
3 Liverpool Eng 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 92.098
4 FC Barcelona Esp 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 88.259
5 Arsenal Eng 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 87.098
6 Olympique Lyon Fra 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 85.094
7 Sevilla Esp 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 82.259
8 Internazionale Ita 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 79.552
9 Newcastle United Eng 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 79.098
10 Real Madrid Esp 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 77.259
11 PSV Eindhoven Ned 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 73.960
12 Villarreal Esp 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 73.259
13 Manchester United Eng 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 73.098
14 Valencia Esp 29.7230 14.1040 5.1620 23.2700 72.259
15 Bayern München Ger 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 67.623
16 FC Porto Por 26.3825 13.6950 8.8150 15.6675 64.560
17 Benfica Por 13.3825 13.6950 17.8150 18.6675 63.560
18 Juventus Ita 12.9285 23.6200 23.0675 3.9360 63.552
19 AZ Alkmaar Ned 1.7875 27.9600 13.5025 18.7105 61.960
20 AS Roma Ita 12.9285 8.6200 19.0675 20.9360 61.552
21 Espanyol Esp 4.7230 4.1040 14.1620 35.2700 58.259
22 AS Monaco Fra 23.4550 15.7710 14.5680 3.3000 57.094
23 Werder Bremen Ger 1.5555 16.4885 14.4440 24.1350 56.623
24 Steaua Bucuresti Rom 5.4300 11.8150 26.5550 10.7400 54.540
25 Middlesbrough Eng 3.7125 17.1385 25.7610 5.4860 52.098
26 Lille OSC Fra 4.4550 16.7710 16.5680 14.3000 52.094
27 CSKA Moscow Rus 1.9385 27.3000 10.3000 12.1860 51.724
28 AC Parma Ita 9.9285 22.6200 5.0675 13.9360 51.552
29 AJ Auxerre Fra 15.4550 19.7710 5.5680 10.3000 51.094
30 Schalke 04 Ger 6.5555 13.4885 24.4440 5.1350 49.623
31 Olympique Marseille Fra 24.4550 3.7710 15.5680 5.3000 49.094
32 Ajax Ned 6.7875 11.9600 15.5025 13.7105 47.960
33 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 8.3825 25.6950 3.8150 9.6675 47.560
34 Glasgow Rangers Sco 6.4335 7.5675 13.4025 15.2275 42.631
35 VfB Stuttgart Ger 11.5555 14.4885 13.4440 3.1350 42.623
36 Osasuna Esp 4.7230 4.1040 6.1620 27.2700 42.259
37 Deportivo La Coruña Esp 21.7230 9.1040 5.1620 6.2700 42.259
38 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 1.6085 12.6730 12.8975 14.1450 41.324
39 RC Lens Fra 8.4550 3.7710 13.5680 14.3000 40.094
40 FC Basel Sui 2.6185 9.8660 20.0935 7.3525 39.930
41 Celta de Vigo Esp 12.7230 4.1040 5.1620 17.2700 39.259
42 Celtic Sco 15.4335 8.5675 1.4025 13.2275 38.631
43 Rapid Bucuresti Rom 1.4300 1.8150 23.5550 11.7400 38.540
44 Club Brugge Bel 11.9385 10.0210 9.8150 6.5510 38.325
45 Girondins Bordeaux Fra 18.4550 3.7710 3.5680 12.3000 38.094
46 Panathinaikos Gre 6.3750 14.0350 7.1000 10.5400 38.050
47 Palermo Ita 2.9285 4.6200 19.0675 10.9360 37.552
48 Tottenham Hotspur Eng 3.7125 5.1385 4.7610 23.4860 37.098
49 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 5.3750 16.0350 7.1000 7.5400 36.050
50 Zenit St. Petersburg Rus 1.9385 11.3000 20.3000 2.1860 35.724

Complete and utter pony...

Middlesbrough 25th ???

You couldnt make it up

 

[Mostarac]

Milan are the best European team for the last 5 years. Top 10 of that UEFA list has Milan and Inter, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Lyon, Real, Valencia and Barcelona.

http://www.sportin.ba/tekst.aspx?id=6235

 

[kooldawg]

Forza Milan

Good to see that we;re ranked higher than manure, but Chelsea in 2nd???

 

[Nutsy]

Nah, As long as we are higher than Mancs in 13th place, I'm fine with it. Although It is a wonder, how in the name of hell Chelsea ranked to 2nd place!? How do they really calculate these bloody ranks?

I'm actually suprised to see Sp**s in there albeit it's 48th place When was the last time they were in CL ? The squirrel has more experience than they were.

 

[Clrnc]

uefa cup counts too. see sevilla rankings.

 

[Nutsy]

uefa cup counts too. see sevilla rankings.

Haha I figured that out. Thought It was specifics on those who went on the Champions League campaign. but then you see Tottenham down there.

 

[Original_AAA]

Nah, As long as we are higher than Mancs in 13th place, I'm fine with it. Although It is a wonder, how in the name of hell Chelsea ranked to 2nd place!? How do they really calculate these bloody ranks?

I'm actually suprised to see Sp**s in there albeit it's 48th place When was the last time they were in CL ? The squirrel has more experience than they were.

This is how they calculate it:

Let's take Sevilla as an example. They played 15 games in the Uefa cup gaining 25 points(not 100% sure, but I belive it is 1 for draw, 3 for win) from those games.
7 clubs from Spain played in European cups last season. Those 7 clubs played 80 matches and gained 131 points.

So the calculation for Sevilla last season looks like this:

25 + 131/7*0,33 = 31,27

You then add 31,27 with the previous 5 seasons and you have your ranking.

 

[entropy13]

There should be listings of points for each country as well right?

 

[Original_AAA]

There should be listings of points for each country as well right?

Yes, uefa.com has a list of how the nations did aswell.