ArsenesCoatMaker
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I don't recall there being any recent links or interest. Unless I've missed something ?
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I don't recall there being any recent links or interest. Unless I've missed something ?
This is it, if hes cheap hes worth it because he could be potentially very good but there is a risk factor with him as well. Personally I think hed be great here but there are some great other options, wonder can we lowball Leicester in to taking 20 million.To me Maddison falls into the Mount category. Decent player and I can see the logic in signing him but it just doesn't do anything for me.
I guess Maddison would be fairly cut price with Leicester going down. Maybe he's worth £35-40m, I don't know.
I'd like to think there were better options out there for us though.
That can only happen if Maddison only wants one club or has a relegation clause (which he might have).wonder can we lowball Leicester in to taking 20 million.
This is it, if hes cheap hes worth it because he could be potentially very good but there is a risk factor with him as well. Personally I think hed be great here but there are some great other options, wonder can we lowball Leicester in to taking 20 million.
Why does the bar have to be so low for minutes played? Like I have said, Maddison is very likely missing so many minutes because he is injury-prone.2468 minutes from this season isn't far off 2628 and it's better than any season of Özil's minutes bar 1. We aren't talking about Ramsey/Partey/Rosicky injury prone levels. We're talking better than Prime Özil on average.
I have my doubts that Maddison would cost 40 million as there is competition for him with a year left in contract. I assume it will still be close to Mount numbers, so 50-55 million pounds.For a player with 20 goals/assists in 2023, no chance. 40m would be the low ball for a player of that level. Which is about what we paid for Vieira
much more flair than the plodder from West LondonWould love Madison here.
Why does the bar have to be so low for minutes played? Like I have said, Maddison is very likely missing so many minutes because he is injury-prone.
I still haven't heard an explanation why he otherwise hasn't played more, being their best player?
I have my doubts that Maddison would cost 40 million as there is competition for him with a year left in contract. I assume it will still be close to Mount numbers, so 50-55 million pounds.
Vieira cost 34 million pounds, likely paid in many installments, and has like 46k pounds per week wages. Maddison will ask at least 3x more wages which would be like 24 million pounds in 5 years time. Just something to consider. I think Maddison might ask for even more from top clubs.
It would be quite big money for an injury-prone player, even with a year in contract.
I already said that Maddison is very likely not playing more because he is injury-prone.Because that's not a low bar, it's more minutes than any Man City midfielder bar Rodri, it's more minutes than Özil played for us in all but 1 season.
If you want all our players to play 4000 minutes a season, we'll have a squad full of injury prone players very quickly. It's not sustainable.
How is he injury prone when he has over 30 league games 5 seasons in row. Ok let’s keep freaking vieira and esr because we don’t need MaddisonI already said that Maddison is very likely not playing more because he is injury-prone.
How do you explain him not playing more otherwise in a Leicester team as their best player? No answer to this no matter how many times I ask.
You can't compare to City who will rotate with top players.
Özil was injured a lot too, especially towards the end.
Maddison was not available as Ødegaard backup last season. No funds for it and Leicester would not have sold without silly fee.I don't really care if Maddison costs 40m or 55m. 20 goals and assists is worth the money as it's valuable contribution. It's worth 150k a week. Where as Vieira on 34m and 50k a week looks like money down the toilet unless he seriously goes up levels. Plus in combination:
Vieira 34m
Lakonga 20m
=54m of wasted funds
Who knows Maddison might be like Trossard and score and assist even more in a team that creates more.
Yeah, and contrary to what someone said here previously he can play possession and counter football. Seems weird that someone actually said he plays counter whilst ignoring Brendan Rodgers Leicester were top 6 for possessionmuch more flair than the plodder from West London
Since he contributes nothing it’s a terrible deal no matter how you twist it. Vieira adds nothing to the team except taking spaceMaddison was not available as Ødegaard backup last season. No funds for it and Leicester would not have sold without silly fee.
So it can't be compared in this way. I just put out some facts about the costs.
You suggested Vieira cost 6 million more than he did, and didn't take wages into account. Or paying in many installments, which is very likely in such a deal.
Vieira is my goto of spending wisely over spending big. Akanji and Alvarez combined cost less than the Portuguese dwarf.Since he contributes nothing it’s a terrible deal no matter how you twist it. Vieira adds nothing to the team except taking space
Yeah yet people tell you that you can’t get good players for 15-30 million bracket. Both us and United love to hide behind city having too much. But they just buy better and have a lot less flops. 250 million for sancho, Anthony and Maguire and they will swear they can’t compete because of moneyVieira is my goto of spending wisely over spending big. Akanji and Alvarez combined cost less than the Portuguese dwarf.
I already said that Maddison is very likely not playing more because he is injury-prone.
How do you explain him not playing more otherwise in a Leicester team as their best player? No answer to this no matter how many times I ask. I assume it's because there no other logical explanation.
You can't compare to City who will rotate with top players. It's likely KDB would play more if he didn't have this much injuries. But Pep takes it safe because he is so important.
Özil was injured a lot too, especially towards the end.
For me playing less than 75% as a best player in EPL suggests an injury-prone player. The assumption for non-injury prone player in this way is 85% or more of minutes. Or something like that.
Rice has played like 90% or more. I think it was 92% on average. That's 20% more than Maddison.
Maddison was not available as Ødegaard backup last season. No funds for it and Leicester would not have sold without silly fee.
So it can't be compared in this way. I just put out some facts about the costs.
You suggested Vieira cost 6 million more than he did, and didn't take wages into account. Or paying in many installments, which is very likely in such a deal.