Premier League | Stoke City vs Arsenal | 19/08/2017 | 17:30 BST (16:30 UTC) | BT Sport

[GeorgiaGunner]

thanks!

Put me on ignore if you wish -- doesn't mean you haven't been posting nonsense all day.

Are you saying that welbeck didn't outmuscle, made darting runs behind the cbs and had great chances to score? I mean forget the goals, he was **** I agree with you but his overall game was good. the guy just doesn't position himself properly to shoot. Other than that he played very well.

so basically, a striker had a bad day (and yes welbeck has had many but other than his shooting his gameplay was amazing no?) LET'S NOT MENTION THAT

You're wrong because the only way he will get out of that **** phase he's having is BY PLAYING and scoring like Giroud did.

 

[Arse_shavin]

Not much to say that hasn't been said already. Another frustrating loss. Giroud asked to come on once again and bail us out, but his strengths are dampened somewhat by a back line like Stoke's with a bus parked in front. Tough calls/no calls, no surprise there though, really. My largest gripe was Wenger's team selection and substitutions. Real head scratchers. Is he just pulling names out of his? Laca should never come off for theo when a team is ahead and the bus parked. Truly dreadful.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

You're wrong because the only way he will get out of that **** phase he's having is BY PLAYING and scoring like Giroud did.

I might agree but for the fact that Welbeck has never been a decent finisher and it's not something that can be improved by playing especially not at his age. Mourinho played Shevchenko until he scored but a top class player was nevertheless destroyed. A decent wide forward benches Welbeck and Walcott. Both are nice guys but not top players.

 

[Sanchez11]

Wenger stockpiled all the dross over the years, gave stupid contracts to them and now he's using it as excuse why we can't stregthen our team. What a player.

This in a nutshell we are still paying for being stingey 5 years ago. Honestly we are miles behind. Chelsea were not in the cl but got kante why did we not go all in for him. The summer we only bought cech was a disaster, we are still paying for it. Our rivals all of them have had problems and we did not take advantage at any point!

 

[Makingtrax]

Put me on ignore if you wish -- doesn't mean you haven't been posting nonsense all day.

Don't knock @FreakySami, he's one of our best posters.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

Don't knock @FreakySami, he's one of our best posters.

He's off his game today, then.

 

[Emmanueleboue2]

The referee team was shocking, could have had 3 penalties and we scored a legit goal. That said we were also absolutely shocking. We should be brushing sides like stoke away at ease

 

[A_G]

33 players and yet we can't field 3 CBs or a decent midfield.

It's certainly disingenuous to keep mentioning 33 players when it's clear Gibbs, Lucas, Debuchy and others are not a part of his plans.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

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It's certainly disingenuous to keep mentioning 33 players when it's clear Gibbs, Lucas, Debuchy and others are not a part of his plans.

True. But we seem incapable if getting rid of them.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

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True. But we seem incapable if getting rid of them.

Because they're on inflated salaries. Meanwhile, we didn't pony up the money for Alexis when he was amenable to staying.

 

[ozb.81]

What's the mistake?

All hail Wenger, he who can do no wrong.

First of all, I believe Arsenal will be champion this season. There is no doubt!

But 3 points are very important in such matches. Even if it's trivial.

Okay, Arsène is definitely a good manager but i don't understand that. Giroud didn't start in the first eleven. Was not it the wrong decision?

If you do not agree with my opinion, look at the number of shots before Giroud, please.

 

[alexisales]

First of all, I believe Arsenal will be champion this season. There is no doubt!

But 3 points are very important in such matches. Even if it's trivial.

Okay, Arséne is definitely a good manager but i don't understand that. Giroud didn't start in the first eleven. Was not it the wrong decision?

If you do not agree with my opinion, look at the number of shots before Giroud, please.

are you mentally ill?

 

[freeglennhelder2]

The referee team was shocking, could have had 3 penalties and we scored a legit goal. That said we were also absolutely shocking. We should be brushing sides like stoke away at ease

Why should we be brushing them away. Maybe we are exactly at the level we should be with our current set up? I've seen nothing over the past few seasons to indicate anything else.

 

[ozb.81]

are you mentally ill?

No
I do not know English well.
But I know what the problem is.

 

[bingobob]

Currently displaying the same way that I have been trying out.

 

[Makingtrax]

No
I do not know English well.
But I know what the problem is.

Good to have somebody positive in this bleak time. Don't worry about your English, it's better than many of our English posters.

 

[Mo Britain]

First of all, I believe Arsenal will be champion this season. There is no doubt!

But 3 points are very important in such matches. Even if it's trivial.

Okay, Arséne is definitely a good manager but i don't understand that. Giroud didn't start in the first eleven. Was not it the wrong decision?

If you do not agree with my opinion, look at the number of shots before Giroud, please.

I thought we could win the league but today has knocked my belief. Half-expecting a big signing and expecting Alexis to stay.

I understand why Giroud didn't start - £50 million plus worth of Lacazette!

It has been said we played the three players we did at the back because we expected to dominate possession and have to defend breaks. Under that thinking then Giroud might have started but it could only be WITH Lacazette, not instead of him.

 

[Sapient Hawk]

Please explain what we did wrong today. Provide proper sourcing and elaborate.

@MODS: can we rate posts like based on knowledge and completeness or if it's just sensationalism?

Surely the shambolic display deserves no further mention. Everything went wrong.

 

[Lacaz1fan]

Why exactly was Wenger trying to disturb the team balance by playing Bellerin out of position to accommodate Ox. Ox was energetic but has zero output and very little footballing brain. Hoofing shots when he could pick a pass is not what great players do. Sell him to Chelsea.

 

[tap-in]

Saw team before I went out, just got home, didn't know the result, just found out, not surprised. Played 2 lost one #WengerOut